Gailey is staying.

BarrelORum

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Call it a hunch, but I'll pretty much guarantee that he is not going to be leaving GT. He will be our coach next season. Gailey is not a bad coach, he's just not a great coach in my opinion. I don't think he will ever do more than what he has already done for GT. To me Gailey staying, is a good thing at this point in time for two big reasons.

Gailey has not had much depth at GT since he's been here. Some of that has been his own fault, and some of that is clearly not his fault. Regardless, this recruiting class will do a lot in bringing our overall talent level up and provide us some depth. I'm also interested to see what happens in recruiting this next year. So I can appreciate Gailey staying at GT.

More importantly though, Gailey interviewing sets up next season very nicely. Many people who have been hard core supporters of Gailey have now changed their opinion. For many, the reason they were such ardent followers of Chan has been his apparent commitment to GT. That no longer seems as strong as it once was and these people have now placed Gailey at arms length instead of once embracing him.

The arguement for Gailey is 1.) He coaches up talent and 2.) He needed a Ball-less (pardon the pun) run team. (This is not an arguement about why Gailey started Ball for as long as he did. It was a dumb move). Now that Gailey is at arms length from many of his supporters, that sets up next season very nicely.

First we should have a pretty solid team returning. We will return one of the best Runningbacks in college football. We have depth at QB that is not named Reggie Ball, how can we not improve at QB? We have a strong linebacking core, and more experience in the secondary. Our Offensive Lineman will mostly be seniors.

We lose 5 starters in Calvin-which is huge, Anoai, Kenny Scott, K-Mike Hall, and Wrotto. Notice I did not mention Reggie Ball. We should not feel the loss of Wrotto and K-Mike. Kenny will be tough to replace in coverage. CJ is gone, but Reggie Ball is gone too, so I'd say we probably break even there. Anoai in my opinion will be missed the most. Richards needs to find his old form for next year.

Anyway, back to my point. Next year sets up nicely. There is a very small percentage of me that thinks Gailey could actually get this ship where it needs to be and he has the pieces in place to do just that. The remaining excuses the Supporters of Chan roll out like chess pieces are all gone. The Supporters themselves have dwindled. Gailey either better get the job done, or more than likely, he'll be out the door. We get to keep all of our recruits this year and GT replaces a Coach on OUR terms without having to hurry on a hire. I am sure this experience has given DRad enough information to know how to handle a new hiring if we need one.

If Gailey were to leave now, DRad would be forced to hurry on hiring someone prior to Feb 2nd in order to keep the recruiting class. More than likely, he'd have to hire someone within one week. I don't like that at all, and I don't care how much I trust and respect DRad. I want him to be fully prepared when selecting the next Coach for GT, and under these circumstances, that just doesn't happen.

The stakes just got higher for CG. Whereas before the interviews I thought Gailey could probably go 7-5 next year and be rehired, I no longer think that. I think Gailey could go 8-4 and be lt go. Gailey has to do two things next year in order for him to stay in my opinion:
1.) Go back to a decent bowl game and WIN it.
and
2.) Must beat UGA.

Anything less than that and his supporters won't be there to defend him anymore.
 
BOR,
Good thoughts overall.Tech is in a poor position with CG.If he stays and next yr goes 7-5 and somehow beats uga there is NO way Rad can let him go.Even no uga win and 8-4 will put Rad in real tough spot.
Of course it is possible that CG could go 10-2 if everything clicks.(ND game looks winnable) so we can forget this thread.
 
If Gailey stays, there will be a big press conference and he'll talk about GT is a special place and how this process has only strengthened his commitment to GT. The Chan-backers will eat it up and it will only reaffirm what they believed, no scratch that, KNEW all along. We will right back to the status quo.
 
JTS, I like the picture. The Chan Backers are looking for any excuse to jump off the bandwagon and this last step has pretty much done that. Gailey has not been very calculating in knowing how to keep his fan base around him. He's whittled it away like a stick. How much more can he keep on doing.
 
I'm not jumping but I am concerned why this process is taking so long. What must the recruits be thinking.

BOR, I think if Chan stays D Rad puts an ultimatum on him and if it isn't met Chan's gone.
 
I'm not jumping either.

I wonder with the ultimatum, how that would affect their contract.
 
BOR, I think if Chan stays D Rad puts an ultimatum on him and if it isn't met Chan's gone.

Completely agree. I think Chan's feeling some acute background pressure.
 
Very well-concieved and written post. I agree with a lot it.

The situation does give one pause:

Two of the most storied NFL franchises, the Miami Dolphins & the defending World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers are seriously considering hiring Chan Gailey to replace, respectively, Nick Saban & Bill Cowher--two pretty big names in coaching.

Gailey has worked for both franchises and they know what kind of a coach they would be getting. Apparently, Cowher has put in his personal recommendation in for Gailey.

As the days go on--and if certain insiders are to believed--Chan will leave if offered either job, and there is a pretty good chance he will be offered one or the other.

The same insiders are saying D-Rad already has interviewed Jimbo Fisher, who apparently has an out in his contract with FSU to become coach at one school only--GT. I do not know who the other candidates are, but the list is supposedly very short, and the word is GT would have a new coach within a week.

The $64,000 question is: If Gailey is such a mediocre coach--and has underperformed at GT--why is he getting heavy attention from these high profile NFL franchises?

The options are: (1) the franchises are marvelously incompetent, (2) Gailey is actually a good coach, the possibility of which you allude to in your post:

BarrelORum said:
There is a very small percentage of me that thinks Gailey could actually get this ship where it needs to be and he has the pieces in place to do just that.
Because free markets allocate scarce resources to where they are needed most, particularly when economic stakes are the highest, I think it is most probable Gailey is a better coach than many internet messageboard posters give him credit for being.

The one area I disagree with your post is where you say Gailey's support is dwindling. It is conjecture either way, so my opinion is no more correct than yours, but my impression from talking to other GT people, both online & in person, is that they like Gailey and hope he stays. Certainly I have heard folks who want him gone, but not as many.
 
Great post, ElTechelero. I agree with pretty much everythind you said.

It definitely sounds like Jimbo will be the man should Chan take another job, and it would be announced very quickly.
 
Good post BOR, but I see a possibly fatal flaw in your logic. We can not and should not, ASSume if Gailey returns, he will have his heart and soul in the job next year....NO matter how heart warming and syrupy his press conference is.

I believe it was halfmetaljacket on the HIve who said it best: Hard to put the Genie back in the bottle.

If you saw the Pitt interview peice with him, you saw the Genie.
 
What, is today opposite day or something? Twilight Zone episode maybe?

BOR just said what everybody else has been saying to him for the past week.
 
ElTechelero said:
Very well-concieved and written post. I agree with a lot it.

The situation does give one pause:

Two of the most storied NFL franchises, the Miami Dolphins & the defending World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers are seriously considering hiring Chan Gailey to replace, respectively, Nick Saban & Bill Cowher--two pretty big names in coaching.

Gailey has worked for both franchises and they know what kind of a coach they would be getting. Apparently, Cowher has put in his personal recommendation in for Gailey.

As the days go on--and if certain insiders are to believed--Chan will leave if offered either job, and there is a pretty good chance he will be offered one or the other.

The same insiders are saying D-Rad already has interviewed Jimbo Fisher, who apparently has an out in his contract with FSU to become coach at one school only--GT. I do not know who the other candidates are, but the list is supposedly very short, and the word is GT would have a new coach within a week.

The $64,000 question is: If Gailey is such a mediocre coach--and has underperformed at GT--why is he getting heavy attention from these high profile NFL franchises?

The options are: (1) the franchises are marvelously incompetent, (2) Gailey is actually a good coach, the possibility of which you allude to in your post:


Because free markets allocate scarce resources to where they are needed most, particularly when economic stakes are the highest, I think it is most probable Gailey is a better coach than many internet messageboard posters give him credit for being.

The one area I disagree with your post is where you say Gailey's support is dwindling. It is conjecture either way, so my opinion is no more correct than yours, but my impression from talking to other GT people, both online & in person, is that they like Gailey and hope he stays. Certainly I have heard folks who want him gone, but not as many.
He's not a bad coach, he's exactly what he is- a little bit better than .500 a year coach. But there is no defense of Reggie Ball being the starter for 4 years- buck stops with Chan on that. If he's that good, a kid like Ball would have never have starterd or would have gotten better in the decision making process (which he didnt at all) If you cant develop qb's or have coaches around you who cant, or cant recruit qb's to beat out a Ball for 4 years, or have them actually sitting on the bench because you are too stubborn- Im sorry, you have used a lot of passes around here- and I honestly think the last 3 games were the final straw for everyone. Even Gailey himself. We'll see. I think he stays but then there's a buyout- how can they spin Chan wanting an NFL job (wouldnt be this vocal if not) and keep him now? You really cant. Most of the time these things are quieter unless there is more to the story.
 
Beej, what the hell are you talking about. I've pretty much said the same thing for 2 months now.
beej67 said:
What, is today opposite day or something? Twilight Zone episode maybe?

BOR just said what everybody else has been saying to him for the past week.
 
Well Count Me ...

as a dwindling supporter. This latest dance at a crucial time has left me unawed. I can understand anyone wanting to increase their salary, take on an additional challenge, provide financial security for their family, etc. But my emotional and financial investment is in Georgia Tech, not Chan Gailey. I have a hard time wondering what kind of damage this can do to the Tech program.

It may well weaken the best recruiting class we have had in years. Even if it doesn't it will make it harder to recruit in the future with a lot of "will he go NFL now" questions. GT cannot recruit like UGA. We don't have deep seeded loyalties from HS coaches, students and administrators to our "university" like they do. Our recruiting has to be done by building those relationships with the people that represent GT and GT athletics.

He can undo all this with a great season next year that includes beating UGA and winning the ACC. (Of course, he could have done that before now and a lot of the strident discourse among Tech supporters would have never occurred.) But another year of losing 5 games, including UGA, and I would have to vote on him moving on, whether it is to another job or just the unemployment line via DRad dictate.
 
Well-written, BOR.

To be honest, though, I think DRad has a replacement in hand just in case he leaves. I'd expect a pretty quick turnaround if Chan were to leave.
 
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