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ga_tech_fan11

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I was talking with my AP before school started this morning...his opinion we needed VT to win last night because it will affect our strength of schedule, and lessen our win over them...I say we needed BC to win because that puts VT 2 games back. I was just curious what others might be thinking.
 
Pretty soon SOS won't matter. SOS has no bearing on what we are trying to achieve this year. They could rank us 50th and if we win in Jacksonville, we will STILL go to the Orange Bowl. In any BCS conference, the main concern is W to L's.
 
ga_tech_fan11 said:
I was talking with my AP before school started this morning...his opinion we needed VT to win last night because it will affect our strength of schedule, and lessen our win over them...I say we needed BC to win because that puts VT 2 games back. I was just curious what others might be thinking.
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I'd say you were both right in your own perspectives.
However, from Buzz Bomb's, Cola Jacket's, and TechGator's replay to my post about SOS, Strength of Scheduling becomes meaningless long about this part of the season in my view. And, according to Jeff Sararin's Strenth Of Sceduling, each week it changes. So a team with a very high SOS in the first of the season, may dwindle down toward the second half of the season, since his ranking changes each week and is only current through the last games played.

I'd also say that my reply would pretty much settle your debate to the point that only a duel at 10 paces would be the cure.:laugher:
 
Well, all we can do is win out. None of the polls or the computer rankings will prevent us from going to the Orange Bowl.

But yeah, it does seem like we have a down ACC and a down UGA this year, as well as an ND team who didn't quite live up to the expectations. We just happened to hit our high the year after our oppenent's had a ton of talent graduating.

Still, our schedule's a heck of a lot tougher than what WVU or Louisville will use to go to the MNC game.
 
Since they took SOS out of the BCS ranking system, it doesn't mean much anymore. Some pollsters will look at it, but relatively few. VT's loss is much better to us than VT's win. When VT plays Miami, that's another story. Then again, if we beat Clemson and WHEN we beat Miami, none of that really matters.
 
Imo,

We needed BC to win last night for the following reasons in order:

1) It may assist us in winning the Coastal Division thus....
2) It then gives us a chance to win the ACC thus...
3) We can then go to a BCS Bowl
 
I'll chime in with everyone else on this SOS thing. I do not see what effect that has on what GT can accomplish this year. On almost any occasion when an Atlantic team goes up against a Coastal team I will be pulling for the Atlantic (well, it would be dam* hard if it's Clemson, but I digress).

The only time I can see doing otherwise if, well as an example, you'd rather face an NC State over a BC in the CG, then I would perhaps pull for an NC State win over a Coastal opponent.
 
ga_tech_fan11 said:
I was talking with my AP before school started this morning...his opinion we needed VT to win last night because it will affect our strength of schedule, and lessen our win over them...I say we needed BC to win because that puts VT 2 games back. I was just curious what others might be thinking.
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SOS only matter to undefeated teams vying for one of the top 2 spots...and even then it is worth far less than in previous years.

VT losing is good because they now have 2 losses as we beat them in a tie break which means we could lose to Clemson and NCState...beat Miami at home and still go to the ACC Championship and potentially the BCS.
 
We're not going to Glendale on the 8th on Januray even if we win out, unless something catastrophic happens. At the end of the season there should still be at least 2 unbeatens. The OSU-Mich winner and the UL-West VA winner. So SOS doesn't really matter. 12-1 with an ACC Title and heading to the Orange Bowl would be just fine with me.
 
I could care less about Tech's strength of schedule.(Although I think it's going to be very good when all said and done!) If VT and Miami get two losses with one loss coming from us then even with two ACC losses we go to the ACC Championship game.(I think)

Who ever would have thought that we'd be talking about playing in the ACC Championship game this season? Damn I hope I'm in Jacksonville come first weekend in December!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
There is no way that VT running the table would have been good for us.

If we beat Miami, we can lose a conference game and still get to the ACCG. If we lose to Miami, we have to win the rest of our conference games and hope that Miami loses.
 
gtfan1147 said:
We're not going to Glendale on the 8th on Januray even if we win out, unless something catastrophic happens. At the end of the season there should still be at least 2 unbeatens. The OSU-Mich winner and the UL-West VA winner. So SOS doesn't really matter. 12-1 with an ACC Title and heading to the Orange Bowl would be just fine with me.
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I never said BCS Championship, I said the BCS.

I will be just fine with that.
 
Bogey said:
to us this year.
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aptly put. Next weekend we will probably find out how good this team is.
I think everyone was pulling for a VT loss, but not like that.
We will be tested severely before the close of the year.
If the season ended today and we were acc champs, who do you think we would we play in the OB?
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Orange Bowl matches the ACC Champion with the Big Ten Champion, since it appears Ohio State will be champ and heading to the National Championship, we would play the second place team, being Michigan.
So if the season were to end today, we would play Michigan in the Orange Bowl.
 
TechGator1066 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Orange Bowl matches the ACC Champion with the Big Ten Champion, since it appears Ohio State will be champ and heading to the National Championship, we would play the second place team, being Michigan.
So if the season were to end today, we would play Michigan in the Orange Bowl.
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That would be awesome.

Right now the BCS would have as contenders:

SEC- Auburn and Florida
ACC- GaTech and BC/Clemson/NCState
Big 10- Ohio State and Michigan
Pac10- SoCal and California
Big East- West Virginia and Louisville
big 12- Texas & Missouri/Nebraska

I would love to play either Auburn, Florida, Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, or Southern Cal. I really do not want California, WVa, Missouri, Nebraska, or Louisville...nothing to gain there.

Of course...I realize I am getting ahead of myself...we need to take care of Miami and make this easy.
 
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TechGator1066 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Orange Bowl matches the ACC Champion with the Big Ten Champion, since it appears Ohio State will be champ and heading to the National Championship, we would play the second place team, being Michigan.
So if the season were to end today, we would play Michigan in the Orange Bowl.
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Rose Bowl is historically PAC 10 vs. Big 10 champion since, well, a very long time ago. Last year, Penn State only played in the Orange Bowl because the Rose Bowl hosted the National Championship.

The Orange Bowl really only has one team locked up for the non-championship game years: the ACC champion if they don't play for the MNC. The other opponent could be the Big East champion or any of the at-large bids. It could also possibly be the Big 12 champion, as I don't think they have a bid locked up either, but I could be wrong about that.

So, basically we have no clue at this point who it will be.
 
Rose: PAC10 V Big10
Fiesta: Big12 V At large
Sugar: SEC V At large
Orange: ACC V At large

These are the conference tie-ins before the BCS selections start.
 
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