Hindsight Is 20/20 But G**** C****** Should Have Been …

[GoldenIsle]

Fired after the Ole Miss game. We probably would have beaten UCF and would be sitting pretty at 4-2. We weren’t going to beat Clemson and Ole Miss although we may have had a shot at Clemson with decent coaching and no blocked punts.

 

[MeatWrench]

Stop living in the past

 

[coit]

Nobody cares.

Thank god for the Ignore Thread button.

 

[Flywheel]

Fired after the Ole Miss game. We probably would have beaten UCF and would be sitting pretty at 4-2. We weren’t going to beat Clemson and Ole Miss although we may have had a shot at Clemson with decent coaching and no blocked punts.

Fail. Try "in December 2021".

 

[Techfan02]

Try after citadel

 

[cincyjacket]

In hindsight, he should have never been hired.

 

[bandman]

Yep. should have been left alone at Temple. Oh well.

 

[BainbridgeJacket]

If you could invent time travel, but only use it once, would you convince O'Leary to never hire him?

 

[Dhatura]

Yep. should have been left alone at Temple. Oh well.

At least we would have beaten Temple.

 

[gojkts]

nm

 

[justafan]

Nobody cares.

Thank god for the Ignore Thread button.

Kind of rude and also wrong because I care. Guess you won't be reading this though.

I'm curious why UCF was what did it and not Ole Miss. Maybe the repeated mistakes and losing to what has historically been a lesser program from a lesser conference? I didn't watch UCF but it sounded pretty awful.

I personally would've fired after last season because even if there was a renewed focus on football instead of culture, it was most likely not going to negate all the talent we lost. We also knew the problems weren't just with offense, so replacing Patenaude wasn't going to solve everything.

 

[BainbridgeJacket]

Kind of rude and also wrong because I care. Guess you won't be reading this though.

I'm curious why UCF was what did it and not Ole Miss. Maybe the repeated mistakes and losing to what has historically been a lesser program from a lesser conference? I didn't watch UCF but it sounded pretty awful.

I personally would've fired after last season because even if there was a renewed focus on football instead of culture, it was most likely not going to negate all the talent we lost. We also knew the problems weren't just with offense, so replacing Patenaude wasn't going to solve everything.

The decision was made after the Ole Miss game. It took a while to get the paperwork in order because we have the Pepper Rodgers history and getting signatures on the TStan package deal was a bit difficult since that wasn't unanimous. In my opinion, neither should've been in their jobs for the UGA game last year, much less the UCF game this year, but that's water under the bridge at this point.

 

[RoanokeJacket]

Probably the first sign of trouble was the lifting weights on the sidelines fiasco. I still don't get that one.

 

[GTJay]

Probably the first sign of trouble was the lifting weights on the sidelines fiasco. I still don't get that one.

Just all part of the greatest show on earth.

 

[Nehru Jacket]

Probably the first sign of trouble was the lifting weights on the sidelines fiasco. I still don't get that one.

We were a 40 point underdog and Collins knew his team was most likely going to get plastered. In his mind he wanted to do some kind of stunt that would be remembered. Unfortunately, it was his first game and all we remember is how idiotic it looked.

 

[Liberty]

I'm curious why UCF was what did it and not Ole Miss. Maybe the repeated mistakes and losing to what has historically been a lesser program from a lesser conference? I didn't watch UCF but it sounded pretty awful.

We should have beaten UCF, they played an awful game. I think the decision to keep the 2 bastards into this year was based on some sort of deal that GT needed to be 2-2 after 4 games witht he expectation we would not beat Pitt & would roll into Homecoming at 2-3. With a win we're 3-3 and a weak schedule ahead and a bowl game very possible. Maybe we would have had some momentum to keep the ship from sinking.

I don't think Cabrera wanted to face a hostile alum base at Homecoming being 1-4 and possibly getting drubbed by dook at home to be 1-5. He's have had an insurrection on his hands if he had failed to act at that point. The handwriting was on the wall, nobody liked Collins and his major supporter Stansbury blew every bit of political capital he had on "his man".

I'm sure Cabrera was also extremely dismayed at the empty stands at our games. Weak Clemson attendance at the Benz, WC was expected to not be good and wasn't, then Ole Piss was atrocious. We are probably hemorraghing cash as revenue from football is like down $4-5M from 2018. It was post-firing but on a great, earlier than normal Homecoming with a game at a good time to support attendance we had flaccid attendance, too. The road to recover fans is going to be extraordinarily hard & he could not wait any longer as the bleeding was accelerating. The dook game was a window into what that may look like. We got little lift from canning Collins, understandably under a tight timeline for people to change plans. Guess we'll see Thurs night.

Behind the scenes & I do not have facts to support this, but I also suspect given the economic downturn coupled with pitiful major men's program's situations the pledged donations were coming in way below the percentages normally anticipated putting the big projects in serious jeopardy. That could be back breaking if it's the case.

The UCF game was just the straw the borke the camel's back.