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CiraldoForever

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I remember when Bobby Ross was hired to be Tech's head coach. He came and spoke to the Columbus Georgia Tech Club. After his talk, he took questions. I asked him if he thought he could win a national championship at Tech. He said, "Yes." He went through very hard times for two and one-half years. But, he put together a great staff (not a highly paid one, though) and always recruited the best players as hard as he could (even though he didn't get them most of the time). He lost his first 15 ACC games and almost quit after his second season, because he was so sick of losing.

But George O'Leary and Ralph Friedgen talked him into staying at Tech. He kept working as hard as he could. He lost his first three games of his third season, but then won seven of the last 8 games that year, including beating Georgia 33 - 22 in Atlanta. The next season, he won Tech's fourth National Championship with an undefeated team.. He had to go though hell and work like hell, but he and his staff did it. I don't remember him ever complaining. He mostly kept his mouth shut and kept believing that Tech was a special place where a head coach and great assistants who worked themselves almost to death could accomplish anything.

And they did. Ross knew that hard work at recruiting and coaching would eventually lead to winning, and that winning would lead to all the support and commitment the program needed. He never said, "Well, after Coach Dodd retired, Tech's averaged 3 or 4 wins a year, so adjust your expectations." He deserves a statue outside our stadium as much as the ones that have them now.

In writing this, I'm not criticizing Coach Johnson. He's given me many very happy days. I'm just saying that great leaders don't make excuses, they just work like hell and succeed, in spite of not having all the resources and commitment they'd like to have. They realize that the only way they can get those things is to work like hell and earn them. Imagine if Churchill had looked across the English Channel in 1941 and gone on the radio in England and said, "Well, it is what it is." Everybody in Britain would be speaking German today. Great people accomplish more than the resources they have would cause people to expect could be accomplished. Average people don't.

Coach Johnson talks about needing a commitment to meet fans' expectations. But, really, as Coach Ross proved, that commitment has got to come from the head coach, himself, first. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but it is. A great head coach has to do more than be a genius at running one particular offense. He's got to be great at hiring or coaching up coordinators on defense and special teams, too, and he's got to work like hell to find and go after the best recruits he can get into school and tutor into staying in school.

I'm sure Coach Johnson's had a great game plan for every game we've played this year, and I'm sure 90% of all the plays he's called have been great calls, too. But that isn't enough. We keep bringing knives to gunfights. It doesn't work, and I'll be shocked if it works Saturday, either, even though I'd be thrilled, if it did. I like Coach Johnson. But, I don't want to hear any more excuses. He's getting paid about as much per win as Nick Saban. And Ted Roof, who seems like a very nice Tech man, just got a nice raise, too, despite no consistent signs that he's improving at his job.

There's not much of an excuse to be in year 10 and play like we have this year, especially that debacle against Duke. I think our coaching staff has more resources right now than any staff ever had at Tech, and it's time for them to either make fundamental changes in what they're doing and earn their money, or give some hungry coaches, who see coaching at Tech as a great opportunity and not an excuse to get a permit to park in handicap parking spaces, a chance.

Tech is a great school, with well paid coaches, good facilities, and a fan base looking for a reason to get back on the band wagon. But, it's primarily up to the coaches to make it happen, not anybody else. That's why they get paid so much to go to the games, and we buy tickets. If they do their part, they will see that we'll do our part.

Now, I hope we beat Georgia Saturday. But, even if we do, it will just show the coaching and preparation for Virginia and Duke was worse than we thought. I'm afraid, Saturday will be Clemson times 10, with Georgia needing to beat us as bad as they can to get back in the playoffs, and with us not having an offense, defense or special teams unit that is equipped to stay on the field with them.

But if our coach, whether it's Coach Johnson, which I hope it will be, or somebody else, goes back to the philosophy and work ethic that Bobby Ross had, there is no reason we can't get back on top again. Don't ever think Tech football can't win the national championship and fill up our stadium with Tech fans. Because it can, if it's properly led.
 
I take it you didn't watch the 2014 orange bowl, or two out of the last three contest with the dogs. Look, Ross was great, no argument from me on that point, but if you think CPJ and CBR are looking at equivalent landscapes with regards to admissions for prospective student athletes at GIT, then I don't know what to tell ya. CBR left us one year removed from his college coaching career Opus....as far as I can tell, CPJ is hanging in there with us and fighting for what he needs from the Hill and GTAA in order to more consistently hit or approach the double digit win total annually on the flats. I say we hang in there with him and come up to the plate with regards to support staff, specifically quantity and quality in the recruiting office, and an upgrade in budget for assistant coach's. We are paying our HFBC competitively, but with regards to entire staff, it's not even close to the programs producing the results you seek.
 
Ross left for the pros. That was the move most coaches wanted back then. He wasn't making nowhere near pro money at GT.
 
Boss Ross - IIWISIS

It is what I say it is.

Man knew about leadership, hiring competent people and letting them do their jobs. He was the best evaluator of talent EVER at GT.
 
CiraldoForever said:
I remember when Bobby Ross was hired to be Tech's head coach. He came and spoke to the Columbus Georgia Tech Club. After his talk, he took questions. I asked him if he thought he could win a national championship at Tech. He said, "Yes." He went through very hard times for two and one-half years. But, he put together a great staff (not a highly paid one, though) and always recruited the best players as hard as he could (even though he didn't get them most of the time). He lost his first 15 ACC games and almost quit after his second season, because he was so sick of losing.

But George O'Leary and Ralph Friedgen talked him into staying at Tech. He kept working as hard as he could. He lost his first three games of his third season, but then won seven of the last 8 games that year, including beating Georgia 33 - 22 in Atlanta. The next season, he won Tech's fourth National Championship with an undefeated team.. He had to go though hell and work like hell, but he and his staff did it. I don't remember him ever complaining. He mostly kept his mouth shut and kept believing that Tech was a special place where a head coach and great assistants who worked themselves almost to death could accomplish anything.

And they did. Ross knew that hard work at recruiting and coaching would eventually lead to winning, and that winning would lead to all the support and commitment the program needed. He never said, "Well, after Coach Dodd retired, Tech's averaged 3 or 4 wins a year, so adjust your expectations." He deserves a statue outside our stadium as much as the ones that have them now.

In writing this, I'm not criticizing Coach Johnson. He's given me many very happy days. I'm just saying that great leaders don't make excuses, they just work like hell and succeed, in spite of not having all the resources and commitment they'd like to have. They realize that the only way they can get those things is to work like hell and earn them. Imagine if Churchill had looked across the English Channel in 1941 and gone on the radio in England and said, "Well, it is what it is." Everybody in Britain would be speaking German today. Great people accomplish more than the resources they have would cause people to expect could be accomplished. Average people don't.

Coach Johnson talks about needing a commitment to meet fans' expectations. But, really, as Coach Ross proved, that commitment has got to come from the head coach, himself, first. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but it is. A great head coach has to do more than be a genius at running one particular offense. He's got to be great at hiring or coaching up coordinators on defense and special teams, too, and he's got to work like hell to find and go after the best recruits he can get into school and tutor into staying in school.

I'm sure Coach Johnson's had a great game plan for every game we've played this year, and I'm sure 90% of all the plays he's called have been great calls, too. But that isn't enough. We keep bringing knives to gunfights. It doesn't work, and I'll be shocked if it works Saturday, either, even though I'd be thrilled, if it did. I like Coach Johnson. But, I don't want to hear any more excuses. He's getting paid about as much per win as Nick Saban. And Ted Roof, who seems like a very nice Tech man, just got a nice raise, too, despite no consistent signs that he's improving at his job.

There's not much of an excuse to be in year 10 and play like we have this year, especially that debacle against Duke. I think our coaching staff has more resources right now than any staff ever had at Tech, and it's time for them to either make fundamental changes in what they're doing and earn their money, or give some hungry coaches, who see coaching at Tech as a great opportunity and not an excuse to get a permit to park in handicap parking spaces, a chance.

Tech is a great school, with well paid coaches, good facilities, and a fan base looking for a reason to get back on the band wagon. But, it's primarily up to the coaches to make it happen, not anybody else. That's why they get paid so much to go to the games, and we buy tickets. If they do their part, they will see that we'll do our part.

Now, I hope we beat Georgia Saturday. But, even if we do, it will just show the coaching and preparation for Virginia and Duke was worse than we thought. I'm afraid, Saturday will be Clemson times 10, with Georgia needing to beat us as bad as they can to get back in the playoffs, and with us not having an offense, defense or special teams unit that is equipped to stay on the field with them.

But if our coach, whether it's Coach Johnson, which I hope it will be, or somebody else, goes back to the philosophy and work ethic that Bobby Ross had, there is no reason we can't get back on top again. Don't ever think Tech football can't win the national championship and fill up our stadium with Tech fans. Because it can, if it's properly led.
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Does your husband know that you are up posting on message boards late at night?
 
CiraldoForever said:
I remember when Bobby Ross was hired to be Tech's head coach. He came and spoke to the Columbus Georgia Tech Club. After his talk, he took questions. I asked him if he thought he could win a national championship at Tech. He said, "Yes." He went through very hard times for two and one-half years. But, he put together a great staff (not a highly paid one, though) and always recruited the best players as hard as he could (even though he didn't get them most of the time). He lost his first 15 ACC games and almost quit after his second season, because he was so sick of losing.

But George O'Leary and Ralph Friedgen talked him into staying at Tech. He kept working as hard as he could. He lost his first three games of his third season, but then won seven of the last 8 games that year, including beating Georgia 33 - 22 in Atlanta. The next season, he won Tech's fourth National Championship with an undefeated team.. He had to go though hell and work like hell, but he and his staff did it. I don't remember him ever complaining. He mostly kept his mouth shut and kept believing that Tech was a special place where a head coach and great assistants who worked themselves almost to death could accomplish anything.

And they did. Ross knew that hard work at recruiting and coaching would eventually lead to winning, and that winning would lead to all the support and commitment the program needed. He never said, "Well, after Coach Dodd retired, Tech's averaged 3 or 4 wins a year, so adjust your expectations." He deserves a statue outside our stadium as much as the ones that have them now.

In writing this, I'm not criticizing Coach Johnson. He's given me many very happy days. I'm just saying that great leaders don't make excuses, they just work like hell and succeed, in spite of not having all the resources and commitment they'd like to have. They realize that the only way they can get those things is to work like hell and earn them. Imagine if Churchill had looked across the English Channel in 1941 and gone on the radio in England and said, "Well, it is what it is." Everybody in Britain would be speaking German today. Great people accomplish more than the resources they have would cause people to expect could be accomplished. Average people don't.

Coach Johnson talks about needing a commitment to meet fans' expectations. But, really, as Coach Ross proved, that commitment has got to come from the head coach, himself, first. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but it is. A great head coach has to do more than be a genius at running one particular offense. He's got to be great at hiring or coaching up coordinators on defense and special teams, too, and he's got to work like hell to find and go after the best recruits he can get into school and tutor into staying in school.

I'm sure Coach Johnson's had a great game plan for every game we've played this year, and I'm sure 90% of all the plays he's called have been great calls, too. But that isn't enough. We keep bringing knives to gunfights. It doesn't work, and I'll be shocked if it works Saturday, either, even though I'd be thrilled, if it did. I like Coach Johnson. But, I don't want to hear any more excuses. He's getting paid about as much per win as Nick Saban. And Ted Roof, who seems like a very nice Tech man, just got a nice raise, too, despite no consistent signs that he's improving at his job.

There's not much of an excuse to be in year 10 and play like we have this year, especially that debacle against Duke. I think our coaching staff has more resources right now than any staff ever had at Tech, and it's time for them to either make fundamental changes in what they're doing and earn their money, or give some hungry coaches, who see coaching at Tech as a great opportunity and not an excuse to get a permit to park in handicap parking spaces, a chance.

Tech is a great school, with well paid coaches, good facilities, and a fan base looking for a reason to get back on the band wagon. But, it's primarily up to the coaches to make it happen, not anybody else. That's why they get paid so much to go to the games, and we buy tickets. If they do their part, they will see that we'll do our part.

Now, I hope we beat Georgia Saturday. But, even if we do, it will just show the coaching and preparation for Virginia and Duke was worse than we thought. I'm afraid, Saturday will be Clemson times 10, with Georgia needing to beat us as bad as they can to get back in the playoffs, and with us not having an offense, defense or special teams unit that is equipped to stay on the field with them.

But if our coach, whether it's Coach Johnson, which I hope it will be, or somebody else, goes back to the philosophy and work ethic that Bobby Ross had, there is no reason we can't get back on top again. Don't ever think Tech football can't win the national championship and fill up our stadium with Tech fans. Because it can, if it's properly led.
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I liked Furman Bisher's description after the Citrus Bowl, that the team carried "Ross's lumpy little body" from the field.
 
CiraldoForever said:
I remember when Bobby Ross was hired to be Tech's head coach. He came and spoke to the Columbus Georgia Tech Club. After his talk, he took questions. I asked him if he thought he could win a national championship at Tech. He said, "Yes." He went through very hard times for two and one-half years. But, he put together a great staff (not a highly paid one, though) and always recruited the best players as hard as he could (even though he didn't get them most of the time). He lost his first 15 ACC games and almost quit after his second season, because he was so sick of losing.

But George O'Leary and Ralph Friedgen talked him into staying at Tech. He kept working as hard as he could. He lost his first three games of his third season, but then won seven of the last 8 games that year, including beating Georgia 33 - 22 in Atlanta. The next season, he won Tech's fourth National Championship with an undefeated team.. He had to go though hell and work like hell, but he and his staff did it. I don't remember him ever complaining. He mostly kept his mouth shut and kept believing that Tech was a special place where a head coach and great assistants who worked themselves almost to death could accomplish anything.

And they did. Ross knew that hard work at recruiting and coaching would eventually lead to winning, and that winning would lead to all the support and commitment the program needed. He never said, "Well, after Coach Dodd retired, Tech's averaged 3 or 4 wins a year, so adjust your expectations." He deserves a statue outside our stadium as much as the ones that have them now.

In writing this, I'm not criticizing Coach Johnson. He's given me many very happy days. I'm just saying that great leaders don't make excuses, they just work like hell and succeed, in spite of not having all the resources and commitment they'd like to have. They realize that the only way they can get those things is to work like hell and earn them. Imagine if Churchill had looked across the English Channel in 1941 and gone on the radio in England and said, "Well, it is what it is." Everybody in Britain would be speaking German today. Great people accomplish more than the resources they have would cause people to expect could be accomplished. Average people don't.

Coach Johnson talks about needing a commitment to meet fans' expectations. But, really, as Coach Ross proved, that commitment has got to come from the head coach, himself, first. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but it is. A great head coach has to do more than be a genius at running one particular offense. He's got to be great at hiring or coaching up coordinators on defense and special teams, too, and he's got to work like hell to find and go after the best recruits he can get into school and tutor into staying in school.

I'm sure Coach Johnson's had a great game plan for every game we've played this year, and I'm sure 90% of all the plays he's called have been great calls, too. But that isn't enough. We keep bringing knives to gunfights. It doesn't work, and I'll be shocked if it works Saturday, either, even though I'd be thrilled, if it did. I like Coach Johnson. But, I don't want to hear any more excuses. He's getting paid about as much per win as Nick Saban. And Ted Roof, who seems like a very nice Tech man, just got a nice raise, too, despite no consistent signs that he's improving at his job.

There's not much of an excuse to be in year 10 and play like we have this year, especially that debacle against Duke. I think our coaching staff has more resources right now than any staff ever had at Tech, and it's time for them to either make fundamental changes in what they're doing and earn their money, or give some hungry coaches, who see coaching at Tech as a great opportunity and not an excuse to get a permit to park in handicap parking spaces, a chance.

Tech is a great school, with well paid coaches, good facilities, and a fan base looking for a reason to get back on the band wagon. But, it's primarily up to the coaches to make it happen, not anybody else. That's why they get paid so much to go to the games, and we buy tickets. If they do their part, they will see that we'll do our part.

Now, I hope we beat Georgia Saturday. But, even if we do, it will just show the coaching and preparation for Virginia and Duke was worse than we thought. I'm afraid, Saturday will be Clemson times 10, with Georgia needing to beat us as bad as they can to get back in the playoffs, and with us not having an offense, defense or special teams unit that is equipped to stay on the field with them.

But if our coach, whether it's Coach Johnson, which I hope it will be, or somebody else, goes back to the philosophy and work ethic that Bobby Ross had, there is no reason we can't get back on top again. Don't ever think Tech football can't win the national championship and fill up our stadium with Tech fans. Because it can, if it's properly led.
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I find these kinds of posts to be very intriguing. The general attitude — GT can win consistently at the highest levels — is one I share. I don't believe that calculus prevents us from winning. I don't think not having a sociology major (or whatever) prevents us from winning. I don't think our coeds prevent us from winning. I agree that it takes more effort, more smarts, more everything to overcome those hindrances — but plenty of programs without those hindrances struggle, too. We humans are too enamored of easy answers.

That said... I'm also not sure why you think CPJ 'isn't working hard enough.' You seem to think that CBR was putting us on a totally different trajectory than CPJ has done. I'm not sure about that. The data set for CBR is pretty small. We had a magical season in 1990 — but I'm sure you remember the disappointment of 1991. Do you really think CBR would've kept winning nat'l championships year after year? I don't think so. Bobby Bowden finished in the Top Five 14 years in a row — probably the most impressive sustained streak in modern CFB before Saban — but only won 2 NC's. No one expects that. But we all want a certain consistency.

What level of consistency should we expect? Not Alabama-under-Saban levels. In my opinion, it is possible and reasonable for GT to have the kind of success that Beamer had at VT — consistently a Top 25 team, with occasional forays into the Top 10 and NC contention. We can and should get to a point where we're a pre-season Top 25 team, where there's a 'brand recognition' that GT will be a contender this year. That doesn't mean we have to win the ACC every year, but it does mean that we should be averaging (let's say) 3.5 losses per year — CPJ is averaging 5.4. (I prefer to use losses rather than wins as my measuring stick.)

I don't expect CPJ to win every game, but we have 1-3 losses per year that are absolute head-scratchers. What's worrying is when the head coach is scratching his head too — and that seems to happen a lot to us. (This year, I would say the UT and Duke losses fit in that category.)
 
18in32 said:
I find these kinds of posts to be very intriguing. The general attitude — GT can win consistently at the highest levels — is one I share. I don't believe that calculus prevents us from winning. I don't think not having a sociology major (or whatever) prevents us from winning. I don't think our coeds prevent us from winning. I agree that it takes more effort, more smarts, more everything to overcome those hindrances — but plenty of programs without those hindrances struggle, too. We humans are too enamored of easy answers.

That said... I'm also not sure why you think CPJ 'isn't working hard enough.' You seem to think that CBR was putting us on a totally different trajectory than CPJ has done. I'm not sure about that. The data set for CBR is pretty small. We had a magical season in 1990 — but I'm sure you remember the disappointment of 1991. Do you really think CBR would've kept winning nat'l championships year after year? I don't think so. Bobby Bowden finished in the Top Five 14 years in a row — probably the most impressive sustained streak in modern CFB before Saban — but only won 2 NC's. No one expects that. But we all want a certain consistency.

What level of consistency should we expect? Not Alabama-under-Saban levels. In my opinion, it is possible and reasonable for GT to have the kind of success that Beamer had at VT — consistently a Top 25 team, with occasional forays into the Top 10 and NC contention. We can and should get to a point where we're a pre-season Top 25 team, where there's a 'brand recognition' that GT will be a contender this year. That doesn't mean we have to win the ACC every year, but it does mean that we should be averaging (let's say) 3.5 losses per year — CPJ is averaging 5.4. (I prefer to use losses rather than wins as my measuring stick.)

I don't expect CPJ to win every game, but we have 1-3 losses per year that are absolute head-scratchers. What's worrying is when the head coach is scratching his head too — and that seems to happen a lot to us. (This year, I would say the UT and Duke losses fit in that category.)
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The current talent level, and lack of depth on defense is something he tries to work around.
 
18in32 said:
I find these kinds of posts to be very intriguing. The general attitude — GT can win consistently at the highest levels — is one I share. I don't believe that calculus prevents us from winning. I don't think not having a sociology major (or whatever) prevents us from winning. I don't think our coeds prevent us from winning. I agree that it takes more effort, more smarts, more everything to overcome those hindrances — but plenty of programs without those hindrances struggle, too. We humans are too enamored of easy answers.

That said... I'm also not sure why you think CPJ 'isn't working hard enough.' You seem to think that CBR was putting us on a totally different trajectory than CPJ has done. I'm not sure about that. The data set for CBR is pretty small. We had a magical season in 1990 — but I'm sure you remember the disappointment of 1991. Do you really think CBR would've kept winning nat'l championships year after year? I don't think so. Bobby Bowden finished in the Top Five 14 years in a row — probably the most impressive sustained streak in modern CFB before Saban — but only won 2 NC's. No one expects that. But we all want a certain consistency.

What level of consistency should we expect? Not Alabama-under-Saban levels. In my opinion, it is possible and reasonable for GT to have the kind of success that Beamer had at VT — consistently a Top 25 team, with occasional forays into the Top 10 and NC contention. We can and should get to a point where we're a pre-season Top 25 team, where there's a 'brand recognition' that GT will be a contender this year. That doesn't mean we have to win the ACC every year, but it does mean that we should be averaging (let's say) 3.5 losses per year — CPJ is averaging 5.4. (I prefer to use losses rather than wins as my measuring stick.)

I don't expect CPJ to win every game, but we have 1-3 losses per year that are absolute head-scratchers. What's worrying is when the head coach is scratching his head too — and that seems to happen a lot to us. (This year, I would say the UT and Duke losses fit in that category.)
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We had a fairly strong schedule this year, played a lot of better teams. Your 5.4 average losses per season needs to be viewed with the Jacksonville States, Mercers, Western Carolinas, Alcorn States, etc. taken into consideration. Most of the last twenty years, Duke and UVA have been terrible. We are averaging about five losses a year playing only 8 or nine "good teams" a year.
 
Remember when England won WWII without the USA's overwhelming amount of materiel and manpower?
 
Good post, one question.

18in32 said:
but plenty of programs without those hindrances struggle, too.
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And what are their records? Are they head-scratcher free?

Edit, guess that was two questions
 
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To answer 18in 32, I do think the Coach Johnson is working very hard and very long hours. I just wonder if he isn't spending those long hours working primarily as an offensive coordinator, and not as a traditional head coach, who supervises the offense, defense, special teams and recruiting coordinators. I have the feeling that his solution to recruiting is to have such total mastery of a unique offensive scheme, that he can win without stronger recruiting. And he's done that a lot, and always pointed it out when he did it.

As for comparing our trajectory under Coach Ross and Coach Johnson, I'd say this. Coach Ross went 2-9 (0-6), 3-8 (0-7), 7-4 (4-3), 11-0-1 (6-0), & 8-5 (5-2). To me, that's an upward trajectory. In 1991, he lost to #8 Penn State by 12, to #5 Clemson by 2, to #17 NC State by 7, to South Carolina by 9, & to Georgia by 3. He finished that season by beating #17 Stanford 18-17 in the Aloha Bowl. To me, that's a pretty solid season.

The trajectory under Coach Johnson is more troubling. It seems like we are getting physically weaker and losing to worse teams (that we should beat) more. It feels like our offense is working less and our defense and special teams are inconsistent at best and unsound at worst. I think that we are sliding back, not moving forward. In short, I think the 10 year experiment is beginning to show signs of not working.

It will be interesting to see how we do tomorrow. Will we be able to compete with Georgia like we did with Miami, or will it be a repeat of Clemson? I hope that I'm wrong, but I think that we won't be able to move the ball on offense, stop them on defense, or slow them down on special teams. But, I'll be cheering Tech on, and I'll be feeling joy or sadness about 25 hours from now.

But win or lose, I believe we have some serious problems to address in coaching and recruiting, and I hope Coach Johnson will work with his staff to address them and not retreat into the comfort of our media guide. Sure it's easy to prove we've had worse times at Tech. But, it's just as easy to prove we've had and can have better times, too. Coach Johnson is a very competitive man, and he hates to lose. But, he's also pretty stubborn. He might have to make some changes in what he's doing to satisfy his desire to win.
 
Yukonwreck said:
We had a fairly strong schedule this year, played a lot of better teams. Your 5.4 average losses per season needs to be viewed with the Jacksonville States, Mercers, Western Carolinas, Alcorn States, etc. taken into consideration. Most of the last twenty years, Duke and UVA have been terrible. We are averaging about five losses a year playing only 8 or nine "good teams" a year.
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That's the reason you use losses rather than wins to judge the team, because the varying scheduling of cupcakes is irrelevant. Even with the schedule we had this year, it is reasonable to expect GT to lose 3.5 games/year. We shouldn't have lost to UT. The UVA game I feel charitable about. The Duke loss — or at the least the incompetence we displayed — is inexcusable.
 
CiraldoForever said:
But win or lose, I believe we have some serious problems to address in coaching and recruiting, and I hope Coach Johnson will work with his staff to address them and not retreat into the comfort of our media guide. Sure it's easy to prove we've had worse times at Tech. But, it's just as easy to prove we've had and can have better times, too. Coach Johnson is a very competitive man, and he hates to lose. But, he's also pretty stubborn. He might have to make some changes in what he's doing to satisfy his desire to win.
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It's been 10 years - do you see any reason to think CPJ is going to make changes to anything?
 
CiraldoForever said:
The trajectory under Coach Johnson is more troubling. It seems like we are getting physically weaker and losing to worse teams (that we should beat) more. It feels like our offense is working less and our defense and special teams are inconsistent at best and unsound at worst. I think that we are sliding back, not moving forward. In short, I think the 10 year experiment is beginning to show signs of not working.
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This is all just emotional nonsense. There's absolutely nothing to back these observations up.

How on earth is a 9-4 season with a win over UGA and a bowl win any kind of downward trend? I would have killed for that season under Gailey.
 
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