How did Miami become so successful?

GTKyle

GTKyle

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It's almost luck really.

1. They are an academic school.
2. They are a small school.
3. They have horrible fan support.

Those are not keys to success. It's almost like the only reasons they get recruits now is because they know a lot of Miami players have gone to the NFL so they see it as an easy stepping stone to "the league."

I guess one of the reasons they were so successful is because they really only had to compete with UF for in-state recruits before until FSU came along. I still don't completely understand their success.
 
From wikipedia, it appears the coach in the late 70s, Lou Saban, went on a crazy recruiting binge in his two years there. I'm guessing he pitched Miami's location and went after any player out there, no matter their academics or sketchiness. Trust me, Miami is far from an academic school like GT or Wake Forest.

Saban was only there for two years, but his recruits were responsible for Schellenberger's success. They finished the 1981 season ranked #8 and the recruits kept coming in afterward.
 
floridajacket said:
From wikipedia, it appears the coach in the late 70s, Lou Saban, went on a crazy recruiting binge in his two years there. I'm guessing he pitched Miami's location and went after any player out there, no matter their academics or sketchiness. Trust me, Miami is far from an academic school like GT or Wake Forest.

Saban was only there for two years, but his recruits were responsible for Schellenberger's success. They finished the 1981 season ranked #8 and the recruits kept coming in afterward.
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That sounds exactly like south florida.
 
Academic school?? That's crazy talk. About as acedemic as ugag thinks they are.

For ugag you get parents of pretty bright kids to say " hey, this lottery money is the real deal. Son, you're staying in-state". Ergo the average SAT score rises yet the school isn't doing anything differently in the class room when the average SAT score wasn't so high. Ain't ugag great???
 
Location.

It's easy to recruit when you can take them out for lunch in South Beach.
 
GTKyle said:
It's almost luck really.

1. They are an academic school.
2. They are a small school.
3. They have horrible fan support.

Those are not keys to success. It's almost like the only reasons they get recruits now is because they know a lot of Miami players have gone to the NFL so they see it as an easy stepping stone to "the league."

I guess one of the reasons they were so successful is because they really only had to compete with UF for in-state recruits before until FSU came along. I still don't completely understand their success.
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Howard Schnellenberger deserves most of the credit.
 
I don't know this to be a fact - I'm really just throwing it out there but...

Does anyone know much about the evolution of high school football in Florida? I'm wondering if Miami just caught on to the first wave of players from the state - followed shortly by UF and F$U.
 
Well, when comparing to GT/Atlanta, would a recruit rather go here:
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OR HERE?
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ContactBuzz said:
I'm wondering if Miami just caught on to the first wave of players from the state - followed shortly by UF and F$U.
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The Gators went 4-7 in 1977 under Doug Dickey and then 0-10-1 in Charlie Pell's first season in 1978. That's what opened the door for Saban and Schnellenberger.
 
clapper said:
The Gators went 4-7 in 1977 under Doug Dickey and then 0-10-1 in Charlie Pell's first season in 1978. That's what opened the door for Saban and Schnellenberger.
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My point is while UF had success from time to time (before the 80s), all FL teams (Miami, UF, F$U) seemed to rise to consistent success around the same time.

Was there a similar rise in HS football that preceeded the Big 3? Or was HS football in FL always as strong as it has been for the last quarter century?

Obviously coaches deserve some of the credit - but for the consistency of success that all 3 experienced from the mid 80's to early 2000's, they also have to have the players.
 
Fellas, a little thing called desegregation happened to Southern football in the late 60's and early 70's. Prior to that all the great black players from Florida were going to Yankee schools or HBCU's like FAMU or Grambling.

Miami was a bit ahead of the curve, admitting their first black player in 1966, followed by Florida and FSU a few years later.

There's a good book about Miami's rise for anyone who really wants to know about it:

http://www.amazon.com/Cane-Mutiny-Hurricanes-Overturned-Establishment/dp/0451212975
 
How Miami became so successful? Three words: "South Florida recruiting" as Howard Schnelenberger used to say "I recruit the state of Miami".

I doubt any other tri-county area in the country has as much talent as the Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach tri county area. Southern Cal is nice and the Houston Dallas city recruiting (a UT lock for many years) are nice but nothing like south Fl recruits, there's a reason they call it the speed state.

Ohh and there is also the "NFL U" reputation, weather, women, multiculturalism, lack of pressure from a huge fanbase (most are fair weather and few even speak english) as well as off season conditioning program were former Canes now in the NFL come to Miami to workout with current players.

An Coral Gables is a very nice part of town, the area were the OB is is not Coral Gables, its little Havana, a very run down neighborhood but nothing compared to Opa Locka or Carol City, the true ghettoes where most of the Cane recruits come from (Northwestern and Carol City high).
 
I believe this is correct, it was at one time in the recent past: 90% of Miami's players come from within 90 miles of Coral Gables. It's almost like recruiting isn't even work for 'em.
 
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