How many games will we win this year?

How many games will we win this year?

  • 3 or less

    Votes: 10 4.8%
  • 4

    Votes: 26 12.4%
  • 5

    Votes: 52 24.8%
  • 6

    Votes: 73 34.8%
  • 7

    Votes: 31 14.8%
  • 8 or more

    Votes: 18 8.6%

  • Total voters
    210

GoldZ

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I don't foresee a bowl this season either. A lot of losses last year weren't close.

vs UCF: Loss by 4 touchdowns ... UCF finished 6-4 in the AAC
@ Syracuse: Loss by 2.5 touchdowns ... Syracuse didn't win another game all year
vs Louisville: Win by 2.5 touchdowns ... UofL finished 4-7
vs Clemson: Loss by over 9 touchdowns in what is easily the biggest loss of my entire lifetime
@ BC: Loss by 3 touchdowns
vs Notre Dame: Loss by 2.5 touchdowns
vs Duke: Win by 3.5 touchdowns
@ NC State: Loss by 1.5 touchdowns
vs Pitt: Loss by 2 touchdowns


Collins' teams tend to start slow. He lost to a FCS program early in the season both of his years at Temple. He then lost to Citadel and otherwise winless Syracuse at GT. I wouldn't automatically bank Kennesaw State or Northern Illinois given that Collins has a 1.000 batting average for having a humiliating upset in a season.

The strength of this coaching staff is suppose to be defense. They inherited a not-awful defensive roster. So far they've only gone in reverse while the talent level has been increasing. The defense clocked in at 88th nationally in defensive efficiency last season. Other teams in that neighborhood last season? Winless Kansas. Winless FIU. Winless Arizona.

What about the offense right? It showed flashes last year. It also had a nasty penchant for costly red zone turnovers and a few games where it may have not got off the bus. They finished 92nd in offensive efficiency last year. Other teams in that neighborhood? Winless NIU (over 10 spots higher). Winless UNLV. Winless Vanderbilt.

Where is a difference of 2 or 3 touchdowns a game going to come from in margin? That's what it will take to move the needle looking at last season. I think the consensus is they'll be better. A full touchdown a game better let alone three? You need a lot of gold on your glasses to be able to see that. If they had solutions to their problems I would have expected a little closer margin last year on defeats than the average margin of defeat which is nearly FOUR TOUCHDOWNS after you add in the Clemson game.

Best case scenario .... uhhh ... get some more recruiting classes like the first one and make a bowl by 2023? Worst case scenario ... this season is a repeat of the prior two. Then something similar happens again in 2022. Now there will be coordinator level changes. And we're back to another 2 years of waiting. And then 2024 is your make or break season for the staff.

It sucks that now that the GTAA is finally getting past having Bobinsquatch as AD that, amid all the department wide success, the sports the fans care about most still have bugaboos. Football is at a generational nadir. Men's basketball won the ACC only to get bounced by COVID and a bad draw in the NCAAT and then lose its two most important players. And it wasn't like that whole season was the Harlem Globetrotters ... that season started pretty damn horrifically thanks to some genius and their idea to not practice. And baseball regionals should still come with a giant bottle of Maalox. Frustrating to say the least.
Not so sure a 3 win season this year equates to a 2024 season with same coaching staff.
 

Olgoldandwhie

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We are near a complete roster turnover and supposedly the talent level has taken a significant jump. We need to start playing big boy football and quit the excuses. That’s the reason I voted 7-5.
 

Techbert

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We are near a complete roster turnover and supposedly the talent level has taken a significant jump. We need to start playing big boy football and quit the excuses. That’s the reason I voted 7-5.
A complete roster turnover would mean replacing old regime seniors with new regime seniors, old regime juniors with new regime juniors, and so on.

What we have is very different. We have a roster of true freshmen, true sophomores, and redshirt freshmen, with a hodgepodge of flex seal transfers.

People wonder why I have so little respect for the old guard calcified GT fan base.
 

Vespinae

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Where is a difference of 2 or 3 touchdowns a game going to come from in margin?
With an actual offseason, an actual QB going into year 2, talent upgrades at OL, DL, LB, and WR, and losing little experience and production from last year, I could see the offense gain 1 TD per game, and the defense prevent 1 additional TD per game. There's a 2 TD swing. Add in even considering kicking FGs and (hopefully) making better decisions on KR and PR, and that's somewhere between 2-3 TDs overall per game made up in margin. Ideally...
 

The Champ

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With an actual offseason, an actual QB going into year 2, talent upgrades at OL, DL, LB, and WR, and losing little experience and production from last year, I could see the offense gain 1 TD per game, and the defense prevent 1 additional TD per game. There's a 2 TD swing. Add in even considering kicking FGs and (hopefully) making better decisions on KR and PR, and that's somewhere between 2-3 TDs overall per game made up in margin. Ideally...
I think the offesne will be much better, maybe 1 td again (especially when also considering the upgrade at K). Not sure why I'd expect the D to improve significantly, its basically the same crew +/- a few guys but I dont see where we are way better anywhere.
 

Vespinae

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I think the offesne will be much better, maybe 1 td again (especially when also considering the upgrade at K). Not sure why I'd expect the D to improve significantly, its basically the same crew +/- a few guys but I dont see where we are way better anywhere.
I think the biggest change we'll notice on defense will be on the DL. Getting TK, Younjouen (Belgium kid), and Clayton back healthy and ready to play is big on it's own at least as far as depth goes. Then add in Harris, White, and all the TF that get a full offseason, I think they'll be a lot better. On top of that, LB traded out Curry (who played well, but was limited with his speed) for Eley and I think another guy transfering in. Overall, We may see 4-5 players on the field on defense at a given time that weren't on the team last year. I think the defense will be very different.
 

ElCidBUZZingFAN

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A complete roster turnover would mean replacing old regime seniors with new regime seniors, old regime juniors with new regime juniors, and so on.

What we have is very different. We have a roster of true freshmen, true sophomores, and redshirt freshmen, with a hodgepodge of flex seal transfers.

People wonder why I have so little respect for the old guard calcified GT fan base.
That's old school thinking. Clemson of all places started 5 true freshmen and true sophomores on defense last year.
 

The Champ

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I think the biggest change we'll notice on defense will be on the DL. Getting TK, Younjouen (Belgium kid), and Clayton back healthy and ready to play is big on it's own at least as far as depth goes. Then add in Harris, White, and all the TF that get a full offseason, I think they'll be a lot better. On top of that, LB traded out Curry (who played well, but was limited with his speed) for Eley and I think another guy transfering in. Overall, We may see 4-5 players on the field on defense at a given time that weren't on the team last year. I think the defense will be very different.
Not sure any of the upperclassmen you mentioned are difference makers, if we’re counting on them to finally emerge I don’t have much hope for the D to be drastically better . In my mind one of the younger guys blossoming would be the only way the front 7 (or 6) transforms.
 

Wreck Em

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5-7 because some of our opponents could be pretty good, or really terrible and at this point it's hard to tell. (Eg: VT, Pitt)
I'd be happy with 6
 

GTFLETCH

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I think we go 6-6... We go Bowling!

NIU - WIN
KSU - WIN
at Clemson - Loss
UNC - Loss
Pitt - WIN
at Duke - WIN
at UVA - WIN
VT - Loss
at Miami - Loss
BC - WIN
at ND - Loss
UGA - Loss
 

BigChooch0405

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I voted 4, but I think the team will look better than a four win team. Clemson and UGA will be ugly losses but some of the others will be 7 points or less. I believe we are one year away from returning to the Tony the Tiger Sunbowl in El Paso
 

Yukonwreck

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Our roster appears to have improved. If we fail to be bowl eligible, we should be in the market for TWO new coordinators.
 
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