I’ve Never Seen Such A Wide Discrepancy Between GT & UGA in My…

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GoldenIsle

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60+ years of following GT football. The last 4 contest have been routs , I’ve never seen that before. Even during UGA’s three consecutive SEC titles during the Herschel years we played them fairly competitive except for the 1981 game, and we were down to boot. I’m on this soapbox for the umptieth time but if your going to have a Division 1 Power 5 football program then do what’s necessary to succeed just like we do for the engineering programs. We don’t settle for mediocrity in our academic programs but we waddle in it in some of our athletic teams. I thought I would never say this but poop or get off the pot.
 
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GoldenIsle said:
60+ years of following GT football. The last 4 contest have been routs , I’ve never seen that before. Even during UGA’s three consecutive SEC titles during the Herschel years we played them fairly competitive except for the 1981 game, and we were down to boot. I’m on this soapbox for the umptieth time but if your going to have a Division 1 Power 5 football program then do what’s necessary to succeed just like we do for the engineering programs. We don’t settle for mediocrity in our academic programs but we waddle in it in some of our athletic teams. I thought I would never say this but poop or get off the pot.
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Well good. It only takes money and GT caring. Fix that.
 
Fair take by the OP. It's even worse when you consider how much better the HS talent is in the state of Georgia than it has ever been. One of the problems that is new to Tech is how the SEC has complete overtaken college football. Ohio State and Clemson have provided some outside influence but reality is the SEC has become the defacto minor league for the NFL. It seems like alabamas return to power and really dominating the SEC for several years led to every other program investing to build a championship program. Not sure why the ACC hasn't seen a similar effect following Clemsons success but I think it boils down to ACC schools not being willing to admit just anyone into college.
 
Just what we needed another thread of bitching. Too many dead horses to beat. Football is almost here, let's see what happens with a new staff. Hopefully it doesn't suck and if it does we'll get a new coach.

I haven't been very happy the past few years and yeah it sucks, but let's see what happens instead of spewing the same öööö 1000x because coach sucks, team sucks, etc.
 
GoldenIsle said:
60+ years of following GT football. The last 4 contest have been routs , I’ve never seen that before. Even during UGA’s three consecutive SEC titles during the Herschel years we played them fairly competitive except for the 1981 game, and we were down to boot. I’m on this soapbox for the umptieth time but if your going to have a Division 1 Power 5 football program then do what’s necessary to succeed just like we do for the engineering programs. We don’t settle for mediocrity in our academic programs but we waddle in it in some of our athletic teams. I thought I would never say this but poop or get off the pot.
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Listen, Arkansas got beat last year 37-0 with a #8 ranking. I think the gap between them and everyone else is big.

That being said there is no excuse for 100-0
 
Since 1961 GT has only beaten UGA 17 times. 3 of those wins were against Johnny Griffith, the worst coach ever at UGA. 14 wins in 58 years doesn't look like much of a rivalry but for most of those years the games were at least competitive. Today, it is like UGA and GT are playing two entirely different games. I think even UGA fans want GT to be better than what they are today. It can't be enjoyable watching your team beat a supposed rival like a rented mule every year.

I think GT's handling of coaches since O'Leary left has spelled doom for the program. Gailey actually had the program pretty competitive and he was able to recruit some good athletes. If he had been able to beat UGA, even once, I think he would have been kept as coach. Johnson's hire was, or should have been, a permanent commitment. When a program goes to the triple option, there is really no turning back. After Johnson, GT should have found another option coach or at least one who could install some sort of hybrid offense. Collins has been so bad there is really no need to discuss him.
 
It has to do with changes to the sport as much as it does with us and them. Is there any recent major change to college football that hasn't favored UGA and other factories?
 
RussianOffense said:
It has to do with changes to the sport as much as it does with us and them. Is there any recent major change to college football that hasn't favored UGA and other factories?
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The truth is; UGA was a sleeping giant for about 30 years starting in the late 1980s. They have a great campus, great facilities and a great recruiting base. The penny pinching of their athletic department and their self imposed recruiting restrictions kept them down, relatively, until Kirby arrived in Athens. UGA was a "good" program and that was good enough for the people running the athletic department. They were making loads of money and putting it in the bank and in the pockets of the bureaucrats running the athletic department. Richt got the recruiting restrictions removed but he couldn't get them to spend more money. When Kirby arrived, he pried open the vault door and started spending money on all the things he saw at Alabama. It only took one year for Kirby to turn things around at UGA once the administration started giving him the money to do what he wanted. The changes to the sport really didn't come about in a big way until after Kirby changed the program at UGA.

Now, programs like Georgia and Alabama and Texas are going to have the big NIL money to spend on top of the money they already pour into their programs. Being in Atlanta, you would think GT would have a leg up on the NIL thing but the sad reality is that the GT alumni really don't support the football program in a big way and the non alumni fan base is very small. UGA has about 350,000 living alumni, GT has about 166,000 and many more UGA grads live in Georgia or within driving distance of Athens than GT grads do for Atlanta. I don't think the gap between UGA and GT is as much a result of the changes to the game as it is the fact that UGA has quit handicapping itself as a football program.
 
It come downs to recruiting and AD buy-in. UGA has it now with Kirby above and beyond what they've had since the Dooley years. Richt got them back to national relevance and knocked on the door a few times for a natty, but their recruiting, while good under Richt, wasn't anywhere near what Kirby is doing. They'd routinely have a top 10 class, but be 3rd or 4th in the SEC inside that top 10. Kirby has signed more 5 stars in his 6 seasons there, than Richt did in 16 seasons. Now their AD and big $$$ donors are bought in and they won't be slowing down any time soon.


Yet, here we are, paying doofus millions to be a hype man.....sigh
 
GoldenIsle said:
I’m on this soapbox for the umptieth time
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Again, if we want things to change, then as many of us as possible need to (1) go to games, (2) donate money, (3) participate in the NIL group, and (4) talk up GT with non-fans and unaffiliated football fans. Withholding any of the above just widens the gap--not only the gap between us and ugag, but us and mediocre P5 teams. We have to be average again before we can be really good. If not enough Tech fans do the above, we simply won't compete. It's hard (as a group) but not complicated.
 
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