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Axe

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I don't like to make predicitions and then not come back to take my medicine. I thought GT would play hard and prepare well for this game. Boy, was I ever wrong.

After watching a full season of GT football, I have to say I'm very concerned. What is our identity? What will make CG a success at GT? He doesn't seem to excell in any particular area?

1. Game Planning/Gameday coaching? Even in our wins, I was less than impressed with our game plans and offensive play-calling. The Clemson game plan was the worst I've ever seen. I liked some things we did against UVA but we went conservative too fast. I thought we won at NCSU despite a passive gameplan.

Chan showed no ability to go with his gut and roll the dice at the correct time. I can remember punts on 4th down against Wake and UNC that showed no guts. My gut told me we had to roll the dice on 4th down against UGA in the 1st quarter. We were flat and about to get stem-rolled and needed to make something happen. It would have been risky, but we needed something.

His inability to see that we had a kid at QB that is not a leader and will not consistently win big games for you was his biggest mistake. I don't care what is behind him, you have to try something else. Instead we end up playing our last game of the season with a WR-QB leading us to our only score. There is no excuse for this. To be honest, I can't say for sure if J. Smith wouldn't have been a better option at QB all season. I haven't seen AJ roll out and throw a ball as nicely as Fred did.

Chan might be a solid offensive mind and gameday coach, plus we could enjoy a little more luck next year. However, I saw nothing this season that would lead me to believe his offensive mind or ability to game plan will help us rise above the competition in the future.

2. Motavation- Not much needs to be said here. Anyone who has heard him talk knows that he is far from inspirational. In terms of motivators in the ACC he is near the bottom of a very strong list.

3. Recruiting- So far he has shown very little ability here. Perhaps he will be an outstanding evaluator of talent.

I'm not calling for his head, but it's sad to think that is probably what is needed. I'm afraid we whiffed on this one. Still, I believe in giving him a real chance to get this thing done. My gut tells me we may be in trouble, but my gut has been wrong before:-)

Now it's time to turn to basketball. Don't worry boys before you know it will be spring practice and we will look to the future with optimism.

Go Jackets!
 
I agree with everything except the philosophy I keep hearing that says we shouldn't do anything drastic at this point...

I would counter with..

CG allready has done something quite drastic..He took good players, who had proven themselves over a period of several seasons, and turned them into a poorly conditioned, unmotivated, confused bunch with no identity....I'd say thats pretty drastic...Thus, frankly, if I was Braine, I'd take equivalent "drastic measures"...

Unlike the pros, 2-3 bad years of coaching and recruiting could take another 3-5 years to rebuild in college...sigh...I'm getting too old for this.
 
Originally posted by Axe:
Chan showed no ability to go with his gut and roll the dice at the correct time. I can remember punts on 4th down against Wake and UNC that showed no guts. My gut told me we had to roll the dice on 4th down against UGA in the 1st quarter. We were flat and about to get stem-rolled and needed to make something happen. It would have been risky, but we needed something.

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I said exactly the same thing at the game, at the time. It was 4th down and 2 inches on the ugag 15 yard line. Ugag was already leading and if we punted we were going to punt out of the end zone against a very stiff breeze. Ugag was going to get the ball, in their territory, with great field position and the wind at their backs. It was only going to take them a few plays to get back where we were punting from anyway. And another Ugag score was going to put us down 14-0 right off the bat.

WE HAD NOTHING TO LOSE BY GOING FOR THE FIRST DOWN.

What was going to happen if we went for it and missed? Ugag scoring again??? Helle, they did it anyway.

Chan is a lousy coach....no other way to sugarcoat it. We won seven games this year IN SPITE of his lousy coaching and total lack of leadership.

He should resign and apologize for taking our program down the tubes in record time.
 
Gold Rush,

I just can't advocate firing a college football coach after one 7-5 season. Especially considering we finished 7-5 the previous season with a veteran QB. It's just not right in my mind.

Regardless, I can't see anything at this point that leads me to believe Chan Gailey and GT can be anything more than average in the ACC.
 
I agree with those questioning the first 4th down situation. Tech was 4" away from a first down and Gailey showed no confidence in the offense to move the ball a short distance. He decided on the conservative move - you can't fault him entirely for that call, but I think it sent a message to Georgia and we capitalized on it.
 
Dawgbyte

You are correct...The sad thing is, this is about the 4th or 5th time we've been in the same scenario this year, and every time we showed NO GUTS......and as you said, it ended up being a definitive statement for BOTH teams.....Sad but true
 
Axe..

I realize that conventional wisdom would dictate that you don't fire a coach after one season...Certianly in "Dodds day" something like that would never happen....

BUT

I see college FB more and more as a business.

What would happen in a (any) business, if you hired a CEO, (making &gt; 1 million a year) and in one year your stock was tumbling, the market had no confidence in the CEO, and the VPs being hired into the company took their respective divisions down the tubes - and FAST...Too add to that, your business has no morale whatsoever etc etc ...

I would think this CEO would not last a year.

Whats the difference here ? In Dodds day, things would have been handled differently , but back then the HC wasn't making &gt; 1 million a year (lets include the misc. $$ here) and college FB wasn't a "business" back then.

We have to stop using the old model....

College coaches have certianly benefitted from FB as a business, yet no one seems to want to treat the coach as the CEO....Its weird....We seem to want to handle this business as a gentlemanly way, yet their pay doesn't fit that same model.

Does ANYBODY here think that CG can turn this around ? If so, can we place a wager on that ?
If the answer is no to that question, then why do we want to see a continued slide downwards ?
 
I said before the game that he was going to have to do some things differently as well as roll some dice. Hell, he did some things differently allright, downright mystifying. As for playing aggressively, Not going for it didn't surprise me. He was scared of Duke, he surely must have been petrified of Georgia. If we can't make a half yard behind Robinson and Dorsey something is terribly wrong. I rest my case.
 
I can't argue with what you say Gold Rush. I guess I'm in denial. I still think of College Football as more than just business. It's not very fun rooting for corporations.

Speaking of corporations. Everyone looking for a new team should check out KDE(NYSE) 4 Kids Entertainment. Very interesting stock right now.
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I know; I agree but I think its the reality of college FB in 2002....

I just can't stand the thought of a continual slide downwards. And frankly, if I had even ONE nugget of optimism, I'd feel differently. Actually, you put it best on a post on the HIVE that I just read.....A synopsis of bad decisions, stubbornness, inability to change, inability to motivate etc.

And its quite possible that recruiting is headed the same way...If we cut bait now, we may only lose a year or two...My fear is, awaiting till the end of next year, or even two years, then we basically lose this decade.....
 
Originally posted by DawgByte:
I agree with those questioning the first 4th down situation. Tech was 4" away from a first down and Gailey showed no confidence in the offense to move the ball a short distance. He decided on the conservative move - you can't fault him entirely for that call, but I think it sent a message to Georgia and we capitalized on it.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Why isn't anyone questioning the players who failed to get a half yard on 2nd and 3rd down? I don't blame him one bit for kicking it. That was the least of our problems.
 
Kirbee,

We didn't have 2nd and short but we did have 3rd and short. We certainly should have converted. However, sometimes as a coach you need to show some vision. Your team was flat and about to get drilled. We punted the ball and gained about 19 yards of field position. If it was me, I would have called time-out pulled the ENTIRE team together on the sideline and asked the team, if they were interested in playing today. I might pick a few things to throw and ask my o-line to go out and get me four ------- inches.
 
Axe
I agree - thats another example of the difference in professional players (where stuff like that works, but rarely) vs college where you have to be more "hands on" to be effective, IMO.

I have to agree with Beeware - it does appear that he semi-retired into this job - I have to wonder if he respected the demands of college coaching in the year 2002....
 
I agree totally with Beeware, Goldrush & FatherWasp on the 4th and inches call. Kirby, you're all wet on this one.

The 4th and short wimp-outs by CG have been occuring all year long, and this philosophy has been one of his biggest blunders.

 
To kick it or not. I don't disagree with Axe or Kirbee really.

If I'm not mistaken that was actually once we did get the ball back after we punted it too them. That time it worked out.

About rolling the dice there. It was short. IF and a big if we could have gotten the inches then it might have given us confidense. Hard to say though really. They were beating the heck out of us up front.

Not that it's the refs fault, but i felt on the pass play on second down we got to the stick. Felt the same on the run play on 3rd down. Why go fot it and allow the refs to blow it again?

There is a lot of ways at looking at that hole situation.
 
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