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We have got to get a Peronality guy who surrounds himself with good coaches and wins the ones he is supposed to. I like Chan a lot and like going to bowl games every year, but the worst Bowl Game the ACC has a tie in with every year wont cut it. He still has 2 games left and there is no way I am giving up on him already, but we have got to win 1 more.
 
If we fire Chan, we're taking a HUGE step backwards. Look at the history of GT football, EVERY time we have a head coaching change it takes 4-5 years for us to get back to the level where we can compete and win some against the big boys. If we give up on Gailey this year (with a VERY young OL...not to mention ALL the adversity he's faced) we're putting ourselves in another hole. One we're gonna all be unhappy with for several years.

We've GOT to try to find a way to win one of these last two games, but even if we don't we can't give up on Gailey just yet.
 
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If we fire Chan, we're taking a HUGE step backwards. Look at the history of GT football, EVERY time we have a head coaching change it takes 4-5 years for us to get back to the level where we can compete and win some against the big boys. If we give up on Gailey this year (with a VERY young OL...not to mention ALL the adversity he's faced) we're putting ourselves in another hole. One we're gonna all be unhappy with for several years.

We've GOT to try to find a way to win one of these last two games, but even if we don't we can't give up on Gailey just yet.

[/ QUOTE ]Good post PCB.
 
I wish more fans would realize that it doesn't have to be "Fire Chan or Keep Chan". If he would just realize that some staffing changes desperately need changing, he could improve situation himself. It's not rocket science and other teams do it. Lots of times OC's get fired, DC's get fired and better ones are hired. What is baffling is that CG or DB cannot or do not see the need for ANY change. Now, that may be his downfall in the end.
 
We'll agree to disagree PCB, I said at the begining of the year that 7-4 would be alright, but less than that and we're definitely underachieving. You may believe that the past is a good indicator of the future, and I agree for the most part, but 4 years is enough time to be successful if he's going to be. Thats what all our successful coaches have in the past. I wish for the best still, and I hope for stability, I want another 15-20 year coach, but if that means 6-5 year after year, then its time for a change. Sadly, with the AD retiring, we're in a no win situation. I'm not looking forward to how this shakes out, but all I can do is hope.
 
Listen guys...it could be a lot worse at any program...much less one of the top academic programs in the country. Can we get better?...absolutely. I just think we will go 8-4 this year...and have everyone returning next year and go one or two games better.

It could be a lot worse...how about that Urban Meyer hire at Florida (with everyone back)? How about TexasA&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Colorado, Tennessee, etc.

What is funny is that everyone says Schula took awhile to be successful because of recruiting restrictions...we live with recruiting restrictions every year.

Again...we can get better...there is room for improvement. But Georgia Tech could more easily become worse.

btw...we will beat UGA...I feel good about that one if we can come out of Miami without too many bumps and bruises.
 
I agree 100%. That is a lot of the reason I want to hold on to him. If we lose him we will probably be a 2-4 win team in a couple of years and possibly go through early 90s part 2, which raises the question...Should we think about right now or the long run? If we keep Chan we could probably keep winning 6 games, give or take, for a handful of more years, but then we'll be faced with the same decision we are now. The goal should be National/ACC Titles and those are done through good recruiting, good motivating, and great coaching. Chan is an average recruiter, I have no clue about motivation other than that our team comes out flat a lot such as today, and only a good coach. If we want to win titles...We may need to look elsewhere, but if our goal is to get to bowl games...Chan is our man.
 
History does not have to repeat itself...

look at So.Carolina.They have had more coaches than I can recall. Their most recent hire seems to have made an immediate impact. I for one am willing to risk a little for the chance to improve. Mr. Gailey has had 4 full years to demonstrate improvement and it hasn't happened, even if we win out. Do you believe this program is better off now than we CCG took over? Is this a team that is fun to watch week in, week out? Have you seen ANY efforts to improve our offensive efficiency or special teams play? I answer no to all the above ( and no,I am not posting in anger - I have posted very little this season as I wanted to wait until the year played itself out.) The absolute best we can hope for is 7-4 and that does not represent improvement IMHO.
 
Re: History does not have to repeat itself...

I would like to see what Chan could do with a QB other than Reggie Ball, I bet our offense would be powerful with a good quarterback...but at this rate we will never see that day
 
I think Braine sees VERY clearly the need

for changes on the staff, and I think Gailey refuses to make them, and I think that's why his contract hasn't been extended.

Just MHO.
 
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If we fire Chan, we're taking a HUGE step backwards. Look at the history of GT football, EVERY time we have a head coaching change it takes 4-5 years for us to get back to the level where we can compete and win some against the big boys. If we give up on Gailey this year (with a VERY young OL...not to mention ALL the adversity he's faced) we're putting ourselves in another hole. One we're gonna all be unhappy with for several years.

We've GOT to try to find a way to win one of these last two games, but even if we don't we can't give up on Gailey just yet.

[/ QUOTE ]Good post PCB.

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Such a defeatist attitude. What exactly would we be giving up temporarily? An annual trip to Boise? I would doubt that.
What is the upside? Plenty!

Only some history has said we suck after coaching change. Did it suck after O'Leary? No. Not if you count Boise as success.

Ask Notre Dame how it feels about a coaching change. Ask South Carolina how it feels after a coaching change.

The point is, if we make a great coaching change, history does not repeat itself.
Personally, I think going to Boise stinks, but I don't believe our current coach agrees with that. For this reason, I want there to be a difference between Bowl Games (top 20 teams), and post season holiday exhibitions (all others). I want Tech to compete in Bowl Games.

D Cutcliffe is available until fat bastard is fired in Knoxville.
Remember when Ga. Tech and Tenn. were rivals?
 
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Ask Notre Dame how it feels about a coaching change.

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Didn't they get similar results with the last guy in his first year? Might want to see how they do in years 2, 3, 4 before claiming they are the evidence for change.
 
We can not be afraid of change. There is a possibility of another Bill Lewis. Then again there is always a chance we might end up with a Spurrier. This stuff that it would take years to regroup is just that stuff. Look a little north to Columbia and what Spurrier has done. Look at ND, and SC, both teams more or less from rags to riches.

The change needs to come now, not later when we are in real deep. I think stars do matter. When we play teams with better recruiting we do get beat more often than not.
 
The comparison with ND isn't fair, they always get great recruits and have a ton of talent. However, the comparison with USC(east) is very relevant.
 
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We can not be afraid of change. There is a possibility of another Bill Lewis. Then again there is always a chance we might end up with a Spurrier. This stuff that it would take years to regroup is just that stuff. Look a little north to Columbia and what Spurrier has done. Look at ND, and SC, both teams more or less from rags to riches.

The change needs to come now, not later when we are in real deep. I think stars do matter. When we play teams with better recruiting we do get beat more often than not.

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Once again OldFoggy...give us a name. Last year folks were saying..."why cant we get an Urban Meyer?". Now I say "Thank God we do not have Urban Meyer!!!".

Our issues have nothing to do with the head coach. I would say that the GT football program does more with its academic limitations than any school in the country...period. We are the best in the country over the past five years for schools in our academic category.

...and we are going to beat UGA this year.
 
Re: I think Braine sees VERY clearly the need

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for changes on the staff, and I think Gailey refuses to make them, and I think that's why his contract hasn't been extended.
Just MHO.

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It has not been extended yet because of another reason...and it has nothing to do with Gailey. A plan for an extension has been drafted.
 
True that ND gets terrific talent, however, I beelieve that a coach at GT with name recognition PLUS a good personality PLUS discipline would attract higher caliber recruits than what we now have. I do not care if it takes a season to adjust. CG just does not have much going for him except he is a good man.
 
Guys, asking fans like us to throw out names is pointless. Thats what search committees are for. There will always be hot commodity coaches, like Myers, but theres also coaches who are consistantly good in a smaller name conference/team who would be a good pickup, as well as assistant coaches who have shown to be good at what they do.

As far as acadmics, screw that, Tech is special because we're good in the classroom AND on the field, thats what seperates us from all the other engineering schools in the country.
 
it is amazing that we have played 6 teams this year that are tougher academically than we are! Man, even Auburn.

Because everytime we lose, someone has to bring up how tough academically we are, therefore it follows that the teams we beat must be much tougher academically than we are.

If this is the case, is it time we dropped out of the ACC and go D1AA?
 
It is interesting to speculate but the fact of the matter is that Chan will be our coach next year even if we lose to both Georgia and Miami. Braine is not going to make a change right before he retires that is just the way it is. I just wish Chan were not so stubborn and see the wisdom of getting a bona fide offensive coordinator whom he trusts and doing something about the special teams. Trying to win college football NFL style is just not going to work.
 
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