Is their a coach that "learned under" Gailey that is successful?

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I can't think of one that has had a lot of success.. anybody?
 
You know I remember when our assistant coaches got HC jobs or hired away for promotions and higher paying jobs.
 
I think you have your answer, believe me if there was one the mediocrity boys would have found him.
 
Didn't we lose of one our assistant coaches to Alabama this past offseason? I forgot his name.
 
Who was our last head coach that had coaches "learn under" him and had following successful careers?
 
Well looking back at O'Leary even if you don't count Fridge he also had Randy Edsall and Ted Roof, both head coaches now. So that's three right there, two if you don't count Fridge.
 
ParkinJacket said:
Who was our last head coach that had coaches "learn under" him and had following successful careers?
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Well, a number of O'Leary's assistants are now head coaches, Friedgen, Roof, and Edsall that I can think of.

Whether O'Leary deserves credit for that is certainly arguable. I would give him zero credit for Ralph and very little credit for Edsall (only here one year, hardly an O'Leary protégé). Ted Roof I would say owes a larger debt to O'Leary, though whether Duke is thanking George now is doubtful.


Gailey has been a lot of places and had a lot of assistants. I don't really have time to go track down who they all were and what their success was, especially because I think the question is pretty silly to begin with.
 
Edsall was a stud before he got here. O'Leary had nothing to do with it. He was the defensive backs coach for the Jax Jaguars.
 
BarrelORum said:
So what you are saying is he's never developed another coach?
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Well, the offensive guru that is Patrick Nix apparently left us for "greener pastures." He realized there was a glass ceiling here on the Flats and needed to take his expertise elsewhere. After all, there are other teams out there that need to learn 64 variations of 'off tackle left.'

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BarrelORum said:
Well looking back at O'Leary even if you don't count Fridge he also had Randy Edsall and Ted Roof, both head coaches now. So that's three right there, two if you don't count Fridge.
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If Ted Roof is one of your star head coaching pupils that's not much better than nobody. SOMEBODY has to coach at Duke.
 
gthog61 said:
If Ted Roof is one of your star head coaching pupils that's not much better than nobody. SOMEBODY has to coach at Duke.
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Give Ted a break. Duke sux and its not Ted's fault. He did beat us once.
 
mm42 said:
Well, a number of O'Leary's assistants are now head coaches, Friedgen, Roof, and Edsall that I can think of.

Whether O'Leary deserves credit for that is certainly arguable. I would give him zero credit for Ralph and very little credit for Edsall (only here one year, hardly an O'Leary protégé). Ted Roof I would say owes a larger debt to O'Leary, though whether Duke is thanking George now is doubtful.


Gailey has been a lot of places and had a lot of assistants. I don't really have time to go track down who they all were and what their success was, especially because I think the question is pretty silly to begin with.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
ParkinJacket said:
Who was our last head coach that had coaches "learn under" him and had following successful careers?
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Well lets see... Oleary has been mentioned already so lets skip that douchebag Bill Lewis and goto Ross (OLeary and Ralph, Beamer(?)) or how bout Pepper Rogers (Spurrier and Curry)...

It may be a silly question, but Chan doesnt really seem to develop players or coaches, I make my point.. Most successful coaches have a decending lineage of successful coaches. and since no one can name even one...

Maybe the dolphins will come calling again this year.. they would love to have a .500 coach right now.. Im tired of having one..
 
DustJacket said:
Well lets see... Oleary has been mentioned already so lets skip that douchebag Bill Lewis and goto Ross (OLeary and Ralph) or how bout Pepper Rogers (Spurrier and Curry)...

It may be a silly question, but Chan doesnt really seem to develop players or coaches, I make my point.. Most successful coaches have a decending lineage of successful coaches.

Maybe the dolphins will come calling again this year.. they would love to have a .500 coach right now.. Im tired of having one..
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So, you're saying Ross is the last one, correct? I'd go for that. O'Leary has pretty much been debunked, with the exception of Roof, who has had a less-than-stellar career at Duke.
 
gthog61 said:
If Ted Roof is one of your star head coaching pupils that's not much better than nobody. SOMEBODY has to coach at Duke.
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Really not bragging about Ted. All I was saying is even if O'Leary had just Ted, then that's one more than Gailey has.
 
ParkinJacket said:
So, you're saying Ross is the last one, correct? I'd go for that. O'Leary has pretty much been debunked, with the exception of Roof, who has had a less-than-stellar career at Duke.
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a few years from now, Goose will take a HC job. He has been schooled by Ralph and Oleary.. He will be a good one.
 
BarrelORum said:
Well looking back at O'Leary even if you don't count Fridge he also had Randy Edsall and Ted Roof, both head coaches now. So that's three right there, two if you don't count Fridge.
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That is a huge laugher!!!

Ralph LEARNED under O'Leary!!! Ha!!! Ralph learned under Bobby Ross...period. Ralph was even the OC for the San Diego Chargers while Bobby gave George the DL job...and gave the DC job to Arnsparger. George has as much of an effect on Ralph's offense as Chan on Jon's defense.

Randy Edsall???!!!??? another laugher. Randy spent ONE YEAR at Georgia Tech after being the DB's coach for the Jax Jaguars....then went to UConn. Again...was not a George pupil. Randy Edsall is a 10-year pupil of Dick McPherson and Frank Maloney at Syracuse. He also spent three years under Tom Coughlin at Boston College.

Lastly...the beloved Ted Roof. He has his best game as defensive coordinator after George left and he was allowed to blitz personnel against Stanford in the bowl game. George did not believe in blitzing much at all as he felt like you could not play good defense and win unless a 4 man rush could get to the QB. Kind of like Jon!!! Not!!! I guess you could say he was the closest thing to a pupil though.

You are correct in that a coach that has learned under Gailey at the Dolphins or GaTech has not been out there that I can think of...but he also has not been at either that long. Unless you want to count Tenuta!! :-)
 
hiveredtech said:
You are correct in that a coach that has learned under Gailey at the Dolphins or GaTech has not been out there that I can think of...but he also has not been at either that long. Unless you want to count Tenuta!! :-)
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Take their careers at GT out of the mix, and Wins and losses aside for a second. From purely a job standpoint, ie. who had the better resume of coaching jobs? Gailey or O'Leary?

That's easy. Gailey has a more illustrious pastime even before the GT head coaching job. The guy was a pro offensive coordinator. One a D-1AA championship, and coached the Dallas Cowboys. He also played Quarterback for the Gators.

What did O'Leary do? His only two head coaching jobs are GT and UCF. Had he not fudged on his resume we may be singing a different tune.

The point is, at the time of the hiring. Gailey had infinitely a better job resume than O'Leary but O'LEary was up and coming and moving off to the meca of college football in BARF Notre Dame and Gailey was coming from being a HC at Dallas, to be fired and being the OC for one of the worst Head Coaches in the NFL in Dave Wanstedt at Miami, and the taking a college job at GT. O'Leary was ascending, and Gailey was descending. Instead of hiring an up and coming coach. We hired someone who already had done the best they could.

Not many people think about it that way, but that is the very reason why not many fans were excited about his hiring.
 
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