Is WR Coach Robinson getting the job done?

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I just don't see where he's helped &, in fact, see quite a dropoff. We haven't had this many misses in the past 5 yrs combined. Something's happened to this group. These guys just don't seem to be catching the ball like they should, although they're blocking better than ever.
Thomas was missing so many in Aug-Sept that he didn't play much & missed a beautiful TD pass from Suggs in Md game(while it was still winnable). Bridges looks great, but can't hang onto the ball. Glover hasn't been the same since acrobatic catches vs Vandy. Curry is still a non-factor. Smith started slow, but has shown marked improvement in past 3-4 games. Logan looks good @ WR, but lets some slip away. McGuire hasn't made the jump, yet, although he was more highly thought of than Bridges in HS.
For past 4-5 yrs these guys have been our weapons & I sure expected more from this group. They've cost Suggs & Bilbo a LOT of yardage & just haven't made the plays when we needed them (Bridges 4th dn miss of a high ball to end WF game). Once past Watkins, Glover & Smith, it's just 50-50 whether a nicely thrown ball will be caught.
This bothers me & I'd say after QB Coach, that this area has been most disappointing (ST coaching has moved up a little). Does anybody else see any difference in our WR developement than it's been for several yrs?
 
I agree. The Oklahoma State man looked totally lost in the spring when I watched alot of practices, looks a little dazed now, and in general appears to be in over his head. You are right, many of the catchable balls in the past aren't being caught, yet we appear to have great athletes. Very inconsistent.
 
Good points and a good perspective... something is definately lacking.. maybe he is in over his head..
 
GT Ace, it seems we have several problems with the offense. Methinks Gailey will have to assess that position and the OC position at the end of the year.

There could be a common denominator because of the close relationship between the QB position and the WRs. It is hard to tell from our viewpoint, but I cede to you the fact that the WRs have not appeared to be as efficient as previous years.

Two aspects of the offense seem to be holding up pretty well. I agree Nix must be doing a pretty good job with the backs. Just like the bunny rabbit, "they keep on going", regardless of the injuries.

Also, the offensive line has looked pretty good this year, despite some injuries.

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Ace,
We have taken a significant step backwards in most of the coaching positions, especially head coach.
And in the coaching position that we didn't step backwards, OC, he is being completely stifled by the head coach...which was not only totally obvious Saturday but the head coach finally admitted it on the radio after the game.

As I stated prior to the season, although Bill O'Brien is one of the sharpest young coaches in the nation, and a tremendous asset to TECH, it would have been better if Coach O'Brien had left so that Chan wouldn't have had a scapegoat, and would have to be judged on the mediocre job he has done this season.

Now the FOCers are ready with their rally cry, "If we just get rid of O'Brien everything will be fine."

yeah right.
 
BeeWare, since you stated your opinion on BOB, I will restate mine and add a few thoughts.

The entire problem with the offense stems from keeping BOB. If he were not here, it is entirely possible Nix would be the OC, Bilbo, Camp, Hall, Logan, or Landry would be the QB.

If there is an undercurrent going on involving any of the offensive players, it would have to be over those loyal to BOB. This would also be eliminated.

Since Nix has had great success as an OC and was good QB himself, the quarterback situation would be in good hands. We would be averaging 40 points per game and would be undefeated at this point going in to Athens to play the Dogs.

With a team averaging 40 points per game and a good defense, we would most likely defeat Georgia and be playing for the MNC.

See how great things would be if Gailey had not succumbed to the suggestion of Tech and kept BOB!

Things would really be rosy now.

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Well BW I see you are at it again! I only have this to say "if frogs had wings they wouldn't hit their ______ every time they jump". So just keep it up and alienate (sp)all the people who have supported you in the past.
 
Originally posted by beeware:
Ace,
We have taken a significant step backwards in most of the coaching positions, especially head coach.
And in the coaching position that we didn't step backwards, OC, he is being completely stifled by the head coach...which was not only totally obvious Saturday but the head coach finally admitted it on the radio after the game.

As I stated prior to the season, although Bill O'Brien is one of the sharpest young coaches in the nation, and a tremendous asset to TECH, it would have been better if Coach O'Brien had left so that Chan wouldn't have had a scapegoat, and would have to be judged on the mediocre job he has done this season.

Now the FOCers are ready with their rally cry, "If we just get rid of O'Brien everything will be fine."

yeah right.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Beeware... unless I cant read, I thought this thread was about Robinson...

You have made your point about Gailey... enough already... you have been proven wrong this year... be a man and admit that you were wrong.... GOL and the staff that you are take so much pride in should have been fired last year anyway.... THEY didnt do the job...
 
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The whole staff should have been fired?? Do you care to back that up with facts or is that just your opinion? I think we can all speculate that the ND job opening affected Tech's game prep for the last half of the season. And I agree that would have been addressed (I hope) by the AD, but to say the whole staff should have been fired is crazy. That staff had just given Tech its best 5 year run since Dodd had retired.

Finally, nobody has been proven right or wrong on Chan Gailey. In my mind, the jury is out on him until February. That is where we see if he earns that million dollar salary.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Wrecked.. well of course its my opinion... and I guess the facts are the ones that you stated.. we took our foot off the gas because of ND? or whatever...but the fact is ...we didnt do the job last year.. GOL lost that team last year.. I cant argue that the success of those 5 years... but I also cant argue that the program clearly seemed to peak in 1998... and was trending downward in 2001...
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I think it is almost like a snowball effect. The receivers dropped passes and the QB threw bad passes. What has evolved from that is an offense that doesn't have confidence in themselves. When passes are thrown poorly and good passes are dropped it tends to cause players to begin to expect the worst and thus their performance becomes worse.

It appears to me that is what has happened with our guys. That is probably what frustrated me the most these past couple of weeks is that we haven't taken a step forward in the right direction. I don't think you can place that blame on just one coach because it is a combination of a lot of different factors.

I would hope that this next two weeks are spent on getting some sense of confidence in all aspects of our offense because we will need it.

As a side note, I believe the RBs and OLs have been coached very well this season since they seem to have shown amazing resilance and are certainly the bright spots on our offense.
 
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Originally posted by beeware:
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Beeware... unless I cant read, I thought this thread was about Robinson...

You have made your point about Gailey... enough already... you have been proven wrong this year... be a man and admit that you were wrong.... GOL and the staff that you are take so much pride in should have been fired last year anyway.... THEY didnt do the job...
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">The whole staff should have been fired?? Do you care to back that up with facts or is that just your opinion? I think we can all speculate that the ND job opening affected Tech's game prep for the last half of the season. And I agree that would have been addressed (I hope) by the AD, but to say the whole staff should have been fired is crazy. That staff had just given Tech its best 5 year run since Dodd had retired.

Finally, nobody has been proven right or wrong on Chan Gailey. In my mind, the jury is out on him until February. That is where we see if he earns that million dollar salary.
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GTPilot I agree on the confidence issue. The WRs aren't sure where the ball will be and then don't hang on when they get it. We really need for guys to relax and play, from AJ just throwing the ball to the receivers making the easy catches. If we could just have one guy make a tough catch, say on a fly pattern (we've been so close on some this year) it might just get infectious. The RBs are playing loose and the line is doing their job. If the QB and WR can get in the act we just might surprise some people.
 
Btw, the TEs have played outstanding in run blocking, pass blocking & catching the few tosses that have come their way, with 0 drops. Watkins has also been outstanding @ WR.
It not just all the costly, costly drops that has me worried, but it is also the total lack of developement of the younger players that bugs the stew outta me. U can't have Watkins, Smith on every play so the younger guys have to play. Curry is NOTHING like his old self. Smith was Slow to round back into his very good self. Glover's been going downhill (why?).
The most chilling part, to me, is that 1)Thomas has not played worth a flip (but was somewhat better last coupla games. Still not close to where he should be). 2)Bridges could be the next Campbell, Watkins but something ain't happening. 3)Logan could be the next Middleton, but it ain't improving much. Better be a large jump with him next yr 4)McGuire has the big time body & speed, but isn't contributing at all. If he doesn't make a big jump in '03, somebody has goofed him up.
Watkins & Glover are gone after the Bowl game & if these guys aren't ready to make a play, it's gonna be a loooooooong offensive season in '03. If we get to this point next yr, we'll have wasted 2 yrs of WRs. I'm afraid the WRs aren't getting the coaching to make them 'want it' like Watkins does & it might behoove us to go looking for some spark @ WR Coach.
 
I totally disagree with everyone of you cry babies inconsistent play calling=inconsistent QB play=inconsistent WR play=inconsistent OFF. The WR coach has nothing to do with that alone .It is a total team effort. I could remember when D.WHITE was droping alot of balls it wasn't the coaching he had to get into a rhythm with his QB this has not happen with any of our reciever's because the OFF is not fine tuned.If you guys really had to be trueful none of you (I REPEAT NONE OF YOU INCLUDING BEEWARE HAS A CLUE WHO SHOULD BE COACHING OR NOT) but you have a right to your opinion.
 
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I could remember when D.WHITE was droping alot of balls it wasn't the coaching he had to get into a rhythm with his QB this has not happen with any of our reciever's because the OFF is not fine tuned.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Good point. However, as you said, "The OFF is not fine tuned." Ask yourself if Friedgen's offense up at Maryland is fine-tuned? Even you have to be honest; Maryland doesn't have the talent we do at WR, QB or OL, and wouldn't at RB if not for injuries. Still, they're running all over everybody. Our offense has not looked good this year. The fans are going to talk about it, and the coaches need to take responsibility for it.
 
Agree that we aren't "fine tuned" and MD is, but I still don't understand everybody dogging MDs talent. They look pretty damn good to me on a man to man basis. Nobody ever said Vanderlinden couldn't recruit, just that he couldn't coach. What Fridge has going on I think is that his guys are loose and making plays. Ours are tight and unsure of themselves. I just get this feeling that if the guys loosened up we could start making some plays instead of coming up just short.
 
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