Jimmy Robinson

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...Former WR. Remember back in '01, he was supposedly a serious candidate mostly because he was a "Tech man." Methinks at the time he was the WR coach of the New York football Giants and they were coming off a Super Bowl trip under the Jim Fassel regime. I haven't heard his name dropped at all this time around. Does anyone know if he's still in coaching somewhere?
 
Jimmy is still coaching. He is in Green Bay coaching the Packers WR's.
 
What a great player, i dont know about him as a HC but, he could damn sure catch the football.
 
Could certainly use him here as a WR coach, that's for sure...
 
Supposedly he had his bags packed, ready to head fer Atlanta when Chan was hired.

Some want him, I'm not opposed, but he has no head coaching experience.
 
I trust DRad not to listen to boosters pushing for a perennial position coach in the mold of Jimmy Robinson or Mac McWhorter. Contrary to popular belief, a successful HC at GT need not have ever played or coached at GT before.
 
augustabuzz said:
No, but he would make a good one. He is very detail oriented as was King Ralph.
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Not to bash Robinson, but if would make a good OC why has he never been one? He's been coaching for quite a while now hasn't he, always as a position coach?
 
augustabuzz said:
No, but he would make a good one. He is very detail oriented as was King Ralph.
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I like how people are willing to back or not back a potential coach based on unknowns. What we DO know is that he has no Coordinator experience or head coaching experience at either the college or NFL level. So why again are we discussing hiring him again? Because he is a "Tech" man?

That's the dumbest reason I've heard. He does not have enough experience and hiring him is taking a MAJOR gamble.
 
ncjacket said:
Not to bash Robinson, but if would make a good OC why has he never been one? He's been coaching for quite a while now hasn't he, always as a position coach?
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Yes, and except for his early career, all of his experience is NFL. The OC opportunities are very limited at that level. His NFL position salary would push the top 10% OC salaries in NCAA. In addition, he only has a few years left for a full NFL pension.
 
I think your talent at rock-paper-scissor is much more important to OC success than how detail oriented you are.
 
BarrelORum said:
I like how people are willing to back or not back a potential coach based on unknowns. What we DO know is that he has no Coordinator experience or head coaching experience at either the college or NFL level. So why again are we discussing hiring him again? Because he is a "Tech" man?

That's the dumbest reason I've heard. He does not have enough experience and hiring him is taking a MAJOR gamble.
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BOR-
I don't think the quote you chose to use was referencing us hiring him or even him being hired as a head coach. I think that discussion is about him being an OC somewhere.
 
beej67 said:
I think your talent at rock-paper-scissor is much more important to OC success than how detail oriented you are.
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I beg to differ. OC success is much more preparation and "playing chess" than guesswork. If you are referring to "a feel for the game", then I agree to its importance. However, knowing what adjustment to make to your opponent's action has already been determined during preparation.
 
I beg to differ. OC success is much more preparation and "playing chess" than guesswork.
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It's not like chess at all, in chess you see his move before you make yours, and visa versa. In RPS, you don't.

RPS is not randomness, it's not coin flips. It's about intuiting what the other guy is going to do, and doing the thing that beats that. Playcalling in football is a very elaborate, detailed, crazy, stochastic, matchup-based version of rock-paper-scissor, but it still comes down to the same concepts - gleaning (guessing isn't the best word) what play the other guy is going to call, and calling the play that beats that. That's the skill that I want in an OC, and that was one of Fridge's best skills when he was here, because all the prep in the world doesn't help you if he guesses your play right and you guess his play wrong.
 
beej67 said:
It's not like chess at all, in chess you see his move before you make yours, and visa versa. In RPS, you don't.
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But chess, like football, isn't just about knowing the guy's last move. It's about knowing his next move, and the one after that (and if your really good, the one after that). You have to put some of your pieces into play before the ball is snapped.
 
beej67 said:
It's not like chess at all, in chess you see his move before you make yours, and visa versa. In RPS, you don't.

RPS is not randomness, it's not coin flips. It's about intuiting what the other guy is going to do, and doing the thing that beats that. Playcalling in football is a very elaborate, detailed, crazy, stochastic, matchup-based version of rock-paper-scissor, but it still comes down to the same concepts - gleaning (guessing isn't the best word) what play the other guy is going to call, and calling the play that beats that. That's the skill that I want in an OC, and that was one of Fridge's best skills when he was here, because all the prep in the world doesn't help you if he guesses your play right and you guess his play wrong.
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I hear ya Beej, but its a bad analogy. If your opponent only has two fingers or a nub for a hand, its pretty obvious what they are going to do. That's how the preparation comes in. Maybe we play against a guy who last week developed arthritis in their hand and cannot clench a fist, so we stop playing paper as much.

It also doesn't consider that even though you throw paper, his rock can still win because his fingers are more talented than yours.
 
I remember Nix got hammered for calling a reverse on 3rd and 1, a play that Fridge went to on occasion even on 3rd and 1. The difference was that Fridge's worked and Nix didn't, probably because Fridge knew when to throw down paper.

And the OC vs. DC game is more like chess where you both play at the same time, like RPS. There's still luck involved.

Anyway, I find Robinson intriguing as an OC choice if Edsall is hired. I remember Spurrier, after all, jumping from Tech's QB coach to Duke's HC and winning the ACC.
 
BarrelORum said:
I hear ya Beej, but its a bad analogy. If your opponent only has two fingers or a nub for a hand, its pretty obvious what they are going to do. That's how the preparation comes in. Maybe we play against a guy who last week developed arthritis in their hand and cannot clench a fist, so we stop playing paper as much.

It also doesn't consider that even though you throw paper, his rock can still win because his fingers are more talented than yours.
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That's were "detailed," and "stochastic," and "match-up based" come into play.

Like, for instance, the end of the Maryland game, since that's fresh in our minds and a topic of wide conversation around here. We went with a draw on 3rd and 15 to try and get some yards for the fieldgoal kicker. We also went with a running play so we'd be able to eat more time off the clock, since we'd have to give the ball back to Maryland even if we made it. Chan also commented after the game that their decision to go with a run was based on knowing Maryland's defensive tendencies in that yardage situation, which goes back to stochastics. Plus our strength is the running game, which goes back to match-ups. All that led to us choosing a running play - a draw. So then we threw 'rock' and they threw 'paper' and we lost.

So a better OC (or better HC) might not have chosen our play based on all that, but chosen our play based on what play he thought Maryland was going to call. Scissors to their paper.

It's a simplified analogy, not a bad one. (most analogies seek to simplify situations to make them clearer) What I mean when I say "I want an OC that's better at RPS" is that I want an OC that correctly intuits what defense the other team is likely to use, and choses plays that work against that.

And more to the point, I don't want a head coach who has no experience doing that.
 
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