Let's look @ Georgia as a recruiting state

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Let\'s look @ Georgia as a recruiting state

Georgia is a very heavily recruited state with almost every national program looking for players here. Even Stanford has gotten into our knickers in each of the past 3 yrs getting players GT wanted. Georgia has had 120+ youngsters sign Div 1a scholarships each yr over the past 5 yrs. Between 15-20 DNQ each yr, BUT almost each one of these has gone to JC or prep school & then went to a div 1a program.
Georgia ranks 5th nationally in total number of 1a schollies ea yr trailing only 1)California 2)Texas 3)Florida 4)Ohio & a good jump ahead of 6th place Louisiana. Ga is slightly behind Ohio, but Fla has more than double the 1a signees. On a per capita basis (# of 1a schollies/general population) Ga ranks 2nd behind La.
Ga is known as the 4th speed state, but with Fla having more than twice the number of speeders, is not in the same category as Fla, but is far ahead of the next best thing. Clem, SCar & Aub are loaded with Ga players. Ala, Tenn, FSU & Fla pick plums each yr.
UGa will get 20 Ga players each yr, but that still leaves 80 for Tech to look at. The huge majority of these are just not interested. GT could realistically get 20-25 from Ga per yr, but we wouldn't be interested in all these. It should be fairly easy to get 14-15 qualified excellent football players, which is what O'L & staff were doing the past 3-4 yrs.
To not recruit these excellent players, becoming primarily an 'out-of-state' oriented team would be self crucifixtion. I feel we need that deep seated rivalry despising of Clem, FSU & UGa. I believe this helped a lot in winning 4 straight vs Clem & 3 straight vs Ga. Our rivals would certainly use this against us to recruit Georgia players. Not anxious, just concerned. Absolutely no reason that Gailey & staff couldn't get every Ga player we wanted.
 
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What's hard to understand? (And aside from the Mole, I mean that respectfully to the rest of you.) What's so hard in believing about the following reasons why a Georgia youngster might not want to come to Tech:

1. I want to major in (fill in the blank) and Tech doesn't offer it.

2. I grew up loving (fill in the blank) and I choose to go there.

3. Family legacy is at (fill in the blank) and I'm going to go there.

4. I prefer the campus life of (fill in the blank) and choose to go there. (NOTE: I personally wouldn't have used this one because Atlanta's big city life has spoiled me but I, for one, can understand why someone from Swainsboro, Valdosta, Camilla, etc might not feel the same way.

5. Tech has plenty of depth at my position (BTW, this would be a good topic to 'breakdown' sometime soon) and if I attend (fill in the blank) I could instantly compete for playing time.

Hey, I want as many qualifying top notch players from Georgia as possible. Don't think that I don't. But the FACTS of the matter are that there are many reasons why players choose to attend elsewhere.

I might stand alone in this opinion, so be it. But I feel that Chan and company will do a good job recruiting this year. They have been given the funds to recruit outside of this state and the Southeast, they have been seen (in-state) showing interest in our state's players who do qualify for consideration and in contact with their high school coaches as well. They DO know what areas need to be addressed this off-season and WILL produce future Jackets that we can be proud of.
 
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Thanks GT Ace, that is exactly the point I have been trying to make. There are way too many talented kids in GA to recruit mainly outside of GA - it just doesn't make sense.
 
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Question:

Who said that Tech wasn't recruiting Ga anymore?
Where are the articles/facts that say this?
 
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I think Tech recruits the state as heavily as they can. But honestly alot of kids don't want to go to Tech. Athlete or not. Some of the kids I co-op with say that they looked at Tech, but there was one deterring factor. And if you went to Tech I think you know what I am talking about. Football is not king at Tech like it is at other schools, too. But I think we have done a great job evaluating talent the last few years and found some real gems (Godsey, Campbell, Dorsey, Gathers, Fox). I think the stadium improvements are a huge help. I was disappointed to Mac McWhorter let go because I know he has some strong recruiting ties in Georgia. I think if continue to evaluate talent as well as we have, we will be just fine. The recruiting rankings are just someone's opinion anyway; it will all be proven on the field.

GO JACKETS!!!!

THWG
 
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It is disappointing but possible that some athletes attend women's colleges (FSU and others) to meet girls. GT overall has a poor ratio but the ratio is decent in the school of Management and outrageously good in Atlanta. Not to mention Ga State and the numerous other universities nearby. We should (and do) overcome this. My roommate never left the scout team and he had a bunch of girlfriends (and the ratio was even worse back then).

Also add the Calculus requirement to the excellent list of 5 reasons. There may be a few elite athletes are not capable of succeeding at GT due to the academics. More likely is a few athletes know they are too lazy to do the work required here so they are not interested in us for that reason. I give them full credit for realizing that. School isn't for everyone (reference UTutor).
 
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I understand that there are plenty of reasons an athelete may not want to go to GT - women, majors, academics, etc.. just like there are many reasons why they would - Atlanta, academics, football tradition, etc.. What I haven't heard is, given our strenths and weaknesses, why we need to recruit mainly out of state. Do out of state kids not like women? Maybe they just don't know any better being from out of state.
 
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I is a 0-Sum game. If Texas goes up and GA goes down then I do not see a problem

If Rhode Island went up and Ga went down then there would be a bigger beef.

I actually think Atlanta will bring plenty of kids here.
 
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ugag has about 3 times the alums we do in ga, uga is loaded with a female population, calculus is no fun for anyone. the players we recruit as a whole are somewhat interested in a degree, or they would not have chosen tech, we will just have to recruit nationally as we are doing, we have a better product than ugag but, only a certain percentage of potential recruits are willing to pay the price.
 
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i agree with toe meets leather... our advantages aren't necessarily what alot of players want
 
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There seems to be a thought or rumor going around that GT is not recruiting the state of GA hard.

Coach Wilson at lunch brunch gave a quick break down on where the coaches were going for their first "game visits" (BTW these are limited by NCAA) and school visits. In this break down he didn't 'tell all' obviously, but did use the word "doubling up" in GA, while also going to the tampa area and other places.

This feeling that this coaching staff is not recruiting GA hard or isn't maybe as interested in the GA is just not true.

Seems to me that GT has taken some words from Coach Gailey regarding grades and taken that to mean we aren't recruiting this state hard.

What are the facts?

As someone has pointed out on the Hive at this time last year we didn't have any verbals yet. We have three at this point this year. There is maybe a few more that we don't know about at this time. Coach Wilson hinted at this at Lunch with Football.

Things might be a little different this year in regards to how we are fed information on recruiting, but that doesn't bother me. It's probably for the best.
 
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There isn't a Calculus requirement for some majors at Tech. I don't think Management majors have to take Calc. However, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Originally posted by H-town:
There isn't a Calculus requirement for some majors at Tech. I don't think Management majors have to take Calc. However, correct me if I'm wrong.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">They do not have to take Calculus I through V, but they do take a full year that goes into differential equations, etc. It is still Calc., just not on the same scale as for the engineering or science majors.
 
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MGT majors take 'Math for MGT' which has a small amount of calculus but not even close to the amount of calc in the engineering/science math courses. There is essentially no calc in the mgt courses or at least there wasn't when I was in school. The math requirement for MGT majors at GT is probably a little higher than the math load at most bussiness schools but not significantly so in my opinion.
 
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I think that it is only a rumor that GT will not be recruiting Georgia. The rumor was introduced on this board to get us all out of sorts with our coaches. And it also purposed to turn off the prospective Georgia signees.

I cannot help believe that if we packaged our offer in the right dressing, that any prospect who could qualify to get in would be extremely tempted to give up the short-term perks at the other schools to gain a life-time benefit of the Georgia Tech degree. We could say that the tutoring would be so extensive that a degree is all but guaranteed if the student is willing. Of course you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.

If you laid 2 degrees down on the table: one from Georgia Tech and a comparable one from Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, FSU, Florida, Miami, or any school other than MIT, and you gave the student a choice to pick with no strings attached. 9 out of 10 would pick the degree from Georgia Tech!!!!

By the way, be sure to roll up your windows when driving thru Athens. I had mine down the other day, and I ended up with 17 doctors degrees, 54 masters, and 179 bachelors degrees.
 
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GTterific - I hope you are right. I've heard Gailey say several times that we will have to 'go national' with recruiting. We don't seem to have offered (based on recruiting web sites) as many GA players as in the past, and over 20 players from GA have already commited with none commiting to GT so far. Those are the reasons that I am under the impression that we are either de-emphasizing GA or we are being as successful in GA as we have been in past years.
 
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I agree mustard. for it's simple...just tell a kid, "Hey, if football doesn't work out as a career, you'll have a degree from one of the best schools in the country." Many will come here just for that.
 
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goldmember,

The object of the game is to win. For us to win big we're going to have to go national. Nothing has changed. It was like that before, and it's like that now. As far as the recruiting services say...yes 20 or so have publicly commited, but most schools have 1 or 2 from the state that have gotten commitments. How do you know who we've offered and who we haven't? How do you know that we don't have other commitments? Based on recruiting services? I've found recruiting services to be very unreliable in regards to who has been offered and who hasn't. Because that recruiting services aren't reporting it, doesn't mean anything to me.
 
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Right on Culb,
I know when I went to GT, I paid out of state tuition to be there! I wanted it bad!!!! Why not build upon that hunger for a GT degree? Athletes with the smarts to get into GT should be enticed with the academic draw for going to GT.
 
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Don't know if we're recruiting Ga hard or not, but the thread was 'not recruiting Ga is a big mistake'. Have missed some good ones so far & none even mentioned GT. The big DE that committed to Vandy certainly shoulda had more attention from Tech. Anyway, no matter how you spin it, the heart & soul of this yr's GT team are Ga players, as were the past 3-4. Suggs, J Smith, Heller, Robinson, R-Blake, Reilly, Wallace, G Johnson, Wimbush, D Smith, Fox, Brown, Hester, & Muyres. ALL of these started VERY EARLY in their college careers.
Do agree with the earlier poster who said switching to a 'football' state such as Texas will not hurt. It's just that Georgia has been soooo good to us lately that I'd hate to see us lose that edge again of getting top-quality early-on starters from Ga. Not anxious, but concerned.
 
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