LLCoolJacket-Blacks and College Football

71YellowJacket

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LLCJ,

As you can guess, my time at Tech started right after Dodd left coaching but was AD. I do have strong feelings about blacks and college football and yes I'm from the south, Atlanta in fact.

Tech played its first football game against an integrated team in 1955; at Notre Dame. This was considered an outrage at the time. Then to add gasoline to the fire, Tech players voted to play Pittsburg in the 1956 Sugar Bowl. Headlines in the AJC blasted sports integration. The Board of Regents tried to pass a ban on any Georgia school from playing any other integrated school. To their everlasting credit, Coach Dodd and President Van Leer challenged this direction and the Regents backed down.

I went to an all-white public high school in the suburbs; a nice new facility with excellent teachers. Less than five miles away was the black public high school. The building was literally almost falling down and I can only guess what materials the kids had to work with.

This was the south in the mid 1950s; very segregated and very proud of it.

I would like to think that the same spirit that caused President Van Leer and coach Dodd to oppose the Regents took hold in the other public universities in the south and blacks were soon welcomed into the classroom and on to the sports fields. But the skeptic in me says this was not the case. Money talks and began talking loudly. Television brought dramatic revenue increases to both college football and professional football. Suddenly, the best athletes began thinking of more than just trading their talents for a college education and getting a good job, but playing sports professionally.

Chasing this revenue required better and better teams be placed on the field. If you had a average team, no TV coverage and none of the big $$$$. Doors wide open, colleges who once barred blacks from entering recruited the best black athletics.

Tech with its narrow curriculum and higher academic standards, coupled with the miserable education black kids were getting in the south didn’t have a prayer. I’m sure black kids wanted to play for Tech but how many could overcome the educational barriers resulting from segregation? Wasn’t Eddie McShan the first black player to play for Tech, 1968?

So where are we now? Money is still the driving force. Div 1A teams must win to generate revenue, and blacks who can play are welcome with open arms throughout the south. If a player, black or white, can’t cut it academically, the schools will lower the standards, put in basketball courses, anything to keep the best kids playing. They may not get a real college education, but that isn’t what it’s all about is it?
 
Thanks '71. How true is my long held belief that Tech in fact was a national football factory in the era prior to this? For what its worth, didn't Ms. Monroe grace the cover of our media guide in the early '50s?
 
Originally posted by LLCoolJacket:
Thanks '71. How true is my long held belief that Tech in fact was a national football factory in the era prior to this? For what its worth, didn't Ms. Monroe grace the cover of our media guide in the early '50s?
<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I believe you are referring to the September 9, 1952 edition of Look magazine where Marylin Monroe is posed in a white letter sweater with a gold T; "yea Georgia Tech!". This magazine is one of my prized posessions. Tech was the pre-season pick for national champion that year.

IMO, Dodds best back-to-back years were 51-56; several fine seasons before and after. However, I don't think that made Tech a football factory. To my way of thinking a football factory is a college that is operated with the objective to produce championships. Academics are then structured to support this objective; like Georgia and most schools in the SEC.
 
Originally posted by LLCoolJacket:
Thanks '71. How true is my long held belief that Tech in fact was a national football factory in the era prior to this? For what its worth, didn't Ms. Monroe grace the cover of our media guide in the early '50s?
<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">LL,
Tech couldn't have been thought of as a "national" power. However, our history was that of "regional" power.
Tech was in Atlanta, the "ONLY" city worth anything in the South at the Time. Tech's recruiting was better because country boys wanted to come to the city and they could sell their tickets to make some cash.

As far as a football factory, look at what most of those football players ended up doing with their degrees. I'd say about 2/3 of them built Atlanta and the New South. The majority of Tech's major donors and fundraisers are IM football players.

BTW, I'm under 30 but have done a lot of reading. The older guys can add with their recollections.
 
Thanks 71, you have slightly opened a jar that contains truth. It is the first "near mention" of the situation that I have seen on these boards.
nm.
 
Originally posted by techsamillion:
Thanks 71, you have slightly opened a jar that contains truth. It is the first "near mention" of the situation that I have seen on these boards.
nm.
<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Thanks techsamillion. It's a jar (or door?) that should have been opened some time ago.

I hope this will lead to a worthwhile discussion. I do believe Bobby Dodd and President Van Leer deserve long overdue credit for the stance they took on sports integration in the South when “everyone” was on the other side of the issue; the governor, the AJC, the state legislature, and the Board of Regents (totally dominated by Georgia men).

Now, if this was the position of Dodd and Van Leer, why did it take so long for black players to wear a Tech uniform???
 
One of my memories of that was a little pie-shaped wedge of stands at the northeast corner of the endzone. That was where blaccccks sat. And yes they were usually well populated. I would say to myself "They really must love football. There aren't any blacks on the team". And yes they were well dressed and some even stylish. I was very impressed with them.

My wife and I went back for HC a couple of years ago. We live in Washington State where our population is only about 12% minority. The desk clerks and other personell were all black and I'd been away for more than 40 years so that was a little culture shock again for me. OBTW my wife and I were treated friendly and almost loving fashion. It was a real highlight of our trip.
 
I also applaud Dodd for his stance. I believe many times in life we are born and raised in a certain environment, and everything seems normal.

It generally takes someone to speak out on an issue to bring it before the people. Then others say, "you know that is wrong, why do we allow that?".

Even though Dodd agreed to fight for equality for blacks in college football, he and other coaches still had a considerable amount of die-hard segregationists who would revolt if the Southern coaches recruited blacks.

Let's say he had 35 recruits lined up, and he signed a couple of black football players, he might wind up with 15 recruits + the two black players. I think it is one of those things the coaches just sort of gradually worked on.

Sometimes, just because an action is the right thing to do, it might also be the dumb thing to do. You have to try to do the right thing and be wise about your decisions.

I can see why it was a slow process. Minds have to get used to ideas, and it takes longer with some than others.

Father Time
 
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