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Dave has cleared up several issues for me and in doing so confirmed what so many here have said all along.

1) Tech is one of the 3 toughest jobs in the country, along with Army and Notre Dame.
2) Tech may win 9 or 10 games on occasion but never consistently.
3) The older fans from the 50s, 60s, and 70s are out of touch with reality.

So, all you guys who have so passionately argued that conference championships are out of the question; were very much in step with the GTAA, Congratulations!

Good thing Dave kept this operating agenda under wraps until the stadium expansion was complete. It might have gone a little slower with the ‘new realities’ out on the table.
Therefore selling 20,000 extra tickets to Clemson and UGA every year is just part our concession to the teams that DO expect to compete for championships.
Good to know. We just need FSU to rotate onto the schedule so we can fill up the club section with those guys.

If 9 or 10 wins are out of reach, the answer to the obvious question is 6. That’s another excellent clarification. Makes it easier to plan for Thanksgiving, and the holidays.

Hey guys you were right all along. Now we clearly know where we stand.

P.S. to Dave: Notre Dame is in the top 10.
Throw in Vandy or Duke at the next Tech meeting, when you clarify things for the older guys. The Notre Dame thing just confuses us.
 
a very good post, given what we heard yesterday, what are we playing for. try selling that to recruits who are told by other schools they are playing for championships.
 
Its more than just recruiting at stake. We just built a 55,000 seat stadium that needs fans of GT that are not alumni to fill it. And Braine goes and says this on the radio. If you are a fan of GT and not an alumni and more importantly if you just decided to pony up the bucks for season tickets, do you renew when the leadership of GT athletics says something as profound as this on public radio?

How dumb can someone be?
 
Dave's statement was simply dumb. Let's face it, how many schools expect to win 9-10 games a year? Maybe 15? We know we're not in that group. But nobody admits they aren't trying to or that they can't. That's what is so dumb about it. He simply had to say we're striving to win every game we play but we do have some limitations that 99% of other D-1 schools don't face due to our unique academic mission. What's so hard abou that? The man should simply never be allowed out of his office. He seems to b a decent administrator, but please keep him away from reporters.
 
Thanks Dave for making it clear why CCG is the right man for the job............. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/puke.gif What kinda message does this send to the players? Not to mention recruits!
DB has dropped the axe on GT football program.
What a dumbass. *DELETED* I'm outta here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drinking.gif
 
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2) Tech may win 9 or 10 games on occasion but never consistently.
3) The older fans from the 50s, 60s, and 70s are out of touch with reality.


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I agree with ncjacket that Braine's statement was dumb, but if history is any indicator he is correct. In the 40 seasons since Dodd retired, Tech has managed to win 9+ games only five times and have not been able to win 9+ in consecutive seasons.

I am one of those older fans from the 60's, and if you think Tech can consistently win 9+ in the ACC plus playing UGA given Tech's restictions, then it is you who are out of touch with reality. Unfortunately, Gailey won't do it and neither will any other coach who replaces him. Deal with it!!!
 
ThomsonJacket...Will you still post the hotties? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banana.gif
 
I just feel betrayed. Theres no way to pretty this up, reality is what you make it, Braines words are those of a man who has given up in the face of adversity. This is not what GT is about at all. This man needs to be removed NOW, he is doing nothing to help GT and has actually started hurting her.

I am insulted that this bastard is representing me, and all the other Tech alumns/fans.
 
Makes you wonder…

How did Davey boy come up with his list of toughest places to coach?

Did he keep a little back book, and update it based on performance?

Navy- good example until Paul Johnson came along.

Air Force- don’t mention them, DeBarry’s got the PC crowd coming after him.

Duke- uh… Spurrier won a conference championship there. Not sure if that counts, I’m really not clear on when it became impossible for us to win. 1990 doesn’t seem so long ago.

Vandy- now there’s an example to use and love!
 
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2) Tech may win 9 or 10 games on occasion but never consistently.
3) The older fans from the 50s, 60s, and 70s are out of touch with reality.


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I agree with ncjacket that Braine's statement was dumb, but if history is any indicator he is correct. In the 40 seasons since Dodd retired, Tech has managed to win 9+ games only five times and have not been able to win 9+ in consecutive seasons.

I am one of those older fans from the 60's, and if you think Tech can consistently win 9+ in the ACC plus playing UGA given Tech's restictions, then it is you who are out of touch with reality. Unfortunately, Gailey won't do it and neither will any other coach who replaces him. Deal with it!!!

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I am one of those from the 70's and who knows may be out of touch with reality. What I do know is that Braine has consistently been a liability when it comes to Atlanta media and good PR for my school.

Whether what he said is correct is not the whole issue- do you think leaders should remove hope from desired goals for the current players? future players? fans? If I recall, at the beginning of the year, many of our players had a stated goal of reaching Jacksonville- they may not get there this year but for those returning, should they just give up on that goal and write-off their off-season workouts as a waste of time?

Of all the dumb stuff he has done, this could be the most harmful. With all the criticism and second guessing Gailey receives, when does Braine get held accountable for the braine-farts he has had over the last few years.

Although he finally admitted the club seating implementation was a mistake, 3 years of bad PR. Hiring process for Gailey- bad PR. Letter after 51-7, bad PR. Potential probation for first time in history -bad PR. Now this.

It has been discussed many times what one may discuss at a tailgate vs what one issues as a public statement on an internet board. Anyone that does not see the long term damage of making a public statement to major media vs a private belief on capping our potential to meet desired goals is out of touch with reality.
 
You guys are missing it big time! Im sorry, you dont say it publicly!! Yes, everyone in the world knows GT is not going to win 9-10 games consistently- Not Many teams do. But the leader of an organization does not tell the troops, the recruits, or anyone else that he doesnt expect to win- and that is exactly what comes across to an 18-year old coming out of school. Braine just coldcocked Gailey and I feel sorry that Gailey has to get on the phones today and start telling recruits that he does expect to win a championship, dont listen to his AD who just graciously gave him an extension. The extension would have helped Gailey in some kids homes, but for the AD to turn around in the same breath and tell the world that "oh, but I dont expect during this extension to win an ACC Championship" is a sucker punch to Gailey, to the kids, and to the fans. I feel sorry for Gailey. You just dont EVER say that. EVER. THats the freakin point whether its true or not. Understand?
 
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I agree with ncjacket that Braine's statement was dumb, but if history is any indicator he is correct. In the 40 seasons since Dodd retired, Tech has managed to win 9+ games only five times and have not been able to win 9+ in consecutive seasons.

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Yeah, but 2 of the 5 9+ win seasons came in the 4 years preceeding Chan. We won 10, 8, 9, and 8 games the 4 years prior to Chan arriving.

What really steams me is that Braine said he does not expect Chan to win a conference championship in the next five years.
 
Well, techinically we won 9, 8, 9 and 7 regular season games, which is what I took Braine's statements to be about. But irregardless it was a dumb statement.
 
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Let's face it, how many schools expect to win 9-10 games a year?

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I'd say most expect it. But none achieve it.

I bet if you only went back 10 years - no school has won 9 or more every year.

This, in no way, defends what DB said - he's probably right but it should've never been said.
 
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ThomsonJacket...Will you still post the hotties?



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Of course...I didn't mean outta here for good....DB can kiss my ass...we all know GT doesn't post 10 win seasons ever year but does that mean we stop tryin' and give up hope? Why field a team at all if the goal isn't to win as much as possible? DB you give up if you like but the rest of us will keep tryin'...*ucker /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/drinking.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rant.gif
 
Dave Brainless can kiss my Tech lovin, pickup drivin, 22 year season ticket holding, non-Tech alumni a##!!

There is so much I want to rant about but I think all of you have said it well already!

Where did Brainless come from anyway? He and Mike Adams can go to h#**!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
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