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71YellowJacket

71YellowJacket

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After, not before the Georgia game, I expressed considerable misgivings about three issues. The first, whether we should go to a bowl game. The second, whether Gailey should be fired. Last, whether AJ should be replaced with Bilbo.

In all three cases, I was a proponent of bashing; no bowl, fire Gailey, and replace AJ.

It should be clear now that a team in as much disarray as Tech following the Georgia game was in no position to represent our school in even a mediocre bowl game; more downside potential than up. I blame Dave Braine for this bone-headed decision.

Now before I start on the next two issues, I have never coached a football team or played quarterback. But you don't have to lay eggs to recognize a rotten one. Gailey does not have the ability to evaluate talent and put together a game plan that maximizes your strengths and your opponent’s weaknesses.

At best, a mediocre Head Coach for a Div I-A team. So what do we do now? If he is fired, what will happen to this years recruiting? If he stays another year, what happens to Tech's future?

Moving on to AJ. This kid has given his best. Unfortunately, he does not have the ability to step up on game day to game day speed. Not his fault, should never been placed in such a position. Bilbo showed all of us his superior athletic abilities, but he never got the coaching or game experience to prepare him for the second half yesterday. Squandered talent.

Now I read, in the paper (and saw during the game) how pissed off Gailey was with both these kids. Chan what did you expect? You didn't develop Bilbo and you put AJ in situations he couldn't handle. Not the kids fault, entirely the coaches. BTW, Gailey cannot blame this on BO’B's recommendations. Gailey has been with the team way more than enough time to draw his own conclusions. Not sure, what will happen next year but we sure squandered numerous opportunities to develop Bilbo this past season.

What a sad waste..
 
71, good post! I am not a proponent of firing a head coach after one year. I definitely think he should have the option of one more year to further refine his staff, and, possibly, go into the next season with a good evaluation of the players who are loyal to Tech football.

After stating the above, I would not be unhappy if he resigned on his own accord.

Since today is my birthday, I can propose a birthday wish for myself. By the way, I was the first baby born in Atlanta in 1936, so I do claim the Atlanta area as home.

My birthwish would be for CG to resign if he is in over his head; for Visor Boy to resign from the Skins and ask for the Tech job; for O'Brien and Tenuta to be booted; and for Nix and Spencer to be promoted to OC and DC.

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY ahsoisee!!!!

What if visor boy didn't come? Would you settle for a MAC ATTACK like we had last year in our bowl game.
 
What a wonderful thought! I will eat 2 pounds of black eyed peas today, and hope for the following: CCG and Braine had a man to man, heart to heart on the plane resulting in a mutual decision that both would get the hell out. In a surprise move, GOL finds his conscience and sends a $1.5m money order from a Minneapolis liquor store that arrives on the flats tomorrow. Clough splits it three ways. Equal shares to Braine and exCCG as severence. The other $500k is distributed evenly to the faithful season football season ticket holders.

Hootie Johnson contacts Spurrier and extends an invitation to join his little ol' golf club on the condition that the evil genious takes over the two new job openings over in Atlanta.

Happy New Year !!
 
GMC 68, thanks for the well-wishes.

I hope you will take this in the right way. I do not intend to be argumentive, but only to express my honest opinion of the Mac situation.

Mac does not have the qualifications to be a head coach. One game does not qualify anyone for a head coaching position.

In my opinion, Mac had little to do with the win against Stanford. It was probably the absence of O'Leary to interfere with the OC and DC that helped us win that game. I seriously doubt Mac called one offensive or defensive play in the entire game. I think all plays were called by O'Brien, Godsey, and Roof.

Mac is an ex-UGA football player with a dormitory named after him or his family at UGA (McWhorter Hall). It was absolutely impossible to name Mac(offensive line coach) as head coach over O'Brien(OC) and Roof(DC and ex-GT football player).

Furthermore, Braine, Clough, and the entire selection committee would have been run out of Atlanta on the rails by Tech fans had they named Mac as head coach at Tech.

As far as I know, Mac has not been contacted or been on any list for head coach for any Division I, II, or III head coaching list. I seriously doubt Mac will ever be a head coach. At best, he will probably regain the status as offensive line coach at some college. I believe he is presently coaching the Tight Ends at Texas.

With the lack of qualifications and limited coaching experience, don't look for him to advance to a head coach, unless it is at a small Division II or III school. As I have stated, I have not heard any rumors of offers from these schools.

As far as Mac as a person, I have no problems with him. Personally, I do not consider him a candidate for a head coaching job at any school.

Again, only my personal honest opinion.

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Originally posted by ahsoisee:
GMC 68, thanks for the well-wishes.

I hope you will take this in the right way. I do not intend to be argumentive, but only to express my honest opinion of the Mac situation.

Mac does not have the qualifications to be a head coach. One game does not qualify anyone for a head coaching position.

In my opinion, Mac had little to do with the win against Stanford. It was probably the absence of O'Leary to interfere with the OC and DC that helped us win that game. I seriously doubt Mac called one offensive or defensive play in the entire game. I think all plays were called by O'Brien, Godsey, and Roof.

Mac is an ex-UGA football player with a dormitory named after him or his family at UGA (McWhorter Hall). It was absolutely impossible to name Mac(offensive line coach) as head coach over O'Brien(OC) and Roof(DC and ex-GT football player).

Furthermore, Braine, Clough, and the entire selection committee would have been run out of Atlanta on the rails by Tech fans had they named Mac as head coach at Tech.

As far as I know, Mac has not been contacted or been on any list for head coach for any Division I, II, or III head coaching list. I seriously doubt Mac will ever be a head coach. At best, he will probably regain the status as offensive line coach at some college. I believe he is presently coaching the Tight Ends at Texas.

With the lack of qualifications and limited coaching experience, don't look for him to advance to a head coach, unless it is at a small Division II or III school. As I have stated, I have not heard any rumors of offers from these schools.

As far as Mac as a person, I have no problems with him. Personally, I do not consider him a candidate for a head coaching job at any school.

Again, only my personal honest opinion.

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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">ahso,
Happy Birthday.
Also, you have been posting this came crap all season...and you were and are dead wrong.

Mac is so much better a coach than Chan Gailey that it is not funny....anyone that watched the Seattle Bowl from last year and the Silicon Valley fiasco from this year can tell that.

Why don't you just admit you were wrong about Chan and Mac?

Mac knows how to coach and motivate college athletes....Chan does not have a clue about it...not one...as he has proven time and time again this year...sometimes at historical levels.
 
Mac has the oppurtunity to encourage the players after losing the head coach and being under a lot of criticsm, he is made to look good by a win BY THE PLAYERS, and suddenly he's number one on the list? What makes you think that he could have kept the team motivated for an entire season?
 
Beeware,

We have 13 data points now to see the trend for GT football under Gailey. How can you see a trend so clearly under Mac with only one point?

Am I missing some points here?
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B(s)W I don't think it's so funny and he's not wrong. Not even dead! You have posted over 900 times and said the exact same thing over 900 times so tell me what the hades do you contribute to this or any board you post on. Are you the only person in the whole universe who has seen the light and that you have been spoken to by the almight and been given the insight to make any and all statements you feel like posting. So if you have the guts (which I doubt) tell us all what you contribute to this board.
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beeware feels that Mac would have been a better choice than Gailey. Hard to really dispute his theory now. He isn't saying that Mac was the only good choice, but one that would have been better than what we got.
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BDG yep you are right and in fact BW may be right but in over 900 posts what has he contributed other than the original post of his distain (sp?) for CG. I'm pretty disgusted over the fiasco in San Jose myself but does he think in over 900 posts we are so stupid as not to get his message?
 
Great post 71!
Yesterday was a very hard pill to swallow. It really hurts to see what is happening and not be able to make decisions about our future. That's why we have these boards.

I couldn't agree with you more in your accessment of this program, this coach and the current situation. I truly would have thought that some of the assistant coaches would have changed in this debacle of a year and have not heard of any movement as yet. I am not a Chan Gailey supporter, not until he coaches his way up to earning it but if Tech can't replace him after one year ... they CAN make him make coaching moves!
 
Ahsoisee, I always take your posts in the right way. I respect your opinion even though I occasionally disagree with you.

First of all I don’t think Mac’s Ugag ties should enter into any decision as to who is the right person for HC. If he has the talent, desire and commitment to do the job then hire him. We should not let anyone’s ties to another school stop us from hiring them for any position if they are the best qualified person available. That is simply cutting off our noses to spite our face. Remember Shug Jurdan and Vince Dooley coaching arrival schools.

What makes you think he wouldn’t make it as a HC? No one has ever given him the chance outside of one bowl game. And if what you say is true in how he let his coordinators handle all the decisions then that makes him a very good head coach. Bear Bryant didn’t make decisions on game day. He left them up to the people he hired. It is hard to argue with his success.

I am not saying Mac is the best candidate for any head coaching job. I am simply saying the man deserves serious consideration or an explanation as to why schools do not feel he is qualified. I don’t know anything about his (or any other coach’s) administrative or organizational skills but I do know he is a motivator and not afraid to delegate responsibility properly.
 
good post 71. I think the talk about these half-ass bowl games contributed to our not putting everything into Georgia. We not only got spanked by Georgia, but lost to mostly the second string of a mid-tier WAC team. Some reward huh? Agree with your QB assessment also. No development. One other thing. While not always getting sacked, these guys get hit almost every play, trying to QB behind the Dookie's offensive line unit qualifies for hazerdous duty. Fire the Dukie today.
 
GMC 68, if Mac is head coaching material, he will get his chance sometime in the future. If the ADs around the country feel he is not a good risk, he will not get a get a chance. That is about all you can ask.

Would you have promoted Mac (offensive line coach and an ex-UGA player) over Roof (defensive coordinator and an ex-GT player) to the head coaching position at GT? If so, what criteria would you have used other than winning one game to promote him over Roof? Remember Roof also won that game as well as O'Brien.

How could you have convinced the committee and myriad of fans at GT that it was the best decision?

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