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1-Will NCAA step in and take any actions against either of these schools?

2-Will ACC likely become involved?

3-Other than the two schools involved, who should be involved?
 
romegajacket said:
1-Will NCAA step in and take any actions against either of these schools?

2-Will ACC likely become involved?

3-Other than the two schools involved, who should be involved?
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1 - no. Out of NCAA jurisdiction.
2 - Yes. The ACC is already involved - they initiated the punishment by suspending the 13 Miami players that were involved (although it looked like more than 13 to me) for 1 game each.
3 - Noone, other than the schools and affiliated conferences. But they should all work to lay down punishment that fits the crimes - FIU looks to have done that. The ACC and Miami have made a mockery of the situation.
 
romegajacket said:
3-Other than the two schools involved, who should be involved?
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The police, and Homeland Security. The FBI when they cross state lines.

This is a much bigger problem than a HC simply losing control of his team.
If Larry Coker had as much class as everyone thinks he does, he should seek a settlement and quit.
Not because he is a bad football coach, but because he is a decent man. He has no control over his gang and he knows it.
Maybe Miami should hire Reuben Carter as his replacement. That way, they could all be arrested.
 
Maybe Lawbee can shed some light on this, but I believe that Reddick could, and should be charged by law enforcement and the Miami-Dade DA with ADW(Assault with a Deadly Weapon). He is the one who ran across the field and swung his helmet as a bludgeon at an opposing player intending to cause grievous bodily harm.

The very least that should happen to him (extralegally) is that he should never again be allowed to play football for the University of Miami, or any other NCAA program.
 
UM needs to be at least warned if this happens again in the next 10 years they will be kicked out of the ACC, IMO. We don't need this shit. You recruit thugs, you get thugs. No place for them in our conference, and really no place for them in college football.
 
This is a sad reflection on UM (although totally expected of such a classless institution) and, more importantly, the ACC. Consider the punishments handed out by FIU/Sunland versus that handed down by UM/ACC.

Swofford is apparently set on lowering ACC standards to even below that of the NFL (even Albert Haynesworth got a 5 game suspension, and that was a joke!).

I know the intent of bringing in thug schools like UM and VT was to improve the ACC's FB program, but I didn't think we'd have to totally give up any ethical standards to do it....
 
I think you guys are way overreacting to this. Clemson and SC had a brawl a few years back and UGA and GT had one when I was in school. It happens from time to time. It shouldn't happen but it does.

Labeling a coach, program, and every player on the team as Thugs and Classless is IMO Classless.
 
goldmember said:
I think you guys are way overreacting to this. Clemson and SC had a brawl a few years back and UGA and GT had one when I was in school. It happens from time to time. It shouldn't happen but it does.

Labeling a coach, program, and every player on the team as Thugs and Classless is IMO Classless.
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Miami was in a melee with LSU that just as bad or even worse than the UM-FIU fight, except that nobody caught it on tape. Two fights, along with every hurricane stomping on the Louisville logo, shows a school out of control.

Also, I'm amazed at how easy Miami will get off. With the tamer Clemson-USC fight, both schools voluntarily declined bowl bids, effectively suspending every single player on each team for a game. They forgoed extra revenue, extra practice time, free travel for the players and free gifts for the players because of this fight.

Miami will instead sit a dozen players out for their easiest game of the season, and looks now to only have one suspended for anything more than that. Their players, such as the absolute punk Kyle Wright, showed no remorse. Coker thought it would become something "positive" for the university. Their fans practically rejoiced in seeing the "U" return back to orginal form.

Of course, I can see all the practical reasons not to reverse the decision, but taking Miami in expansion turned out to be a huge blunder for the ACC. It's obvious that Miami brought them on for the TV and bowl revenue, but they've instead taken a clear downturn since joining the conference. The fantasy FSU-UM championship game now looks like a remote possibility in the years to come and Miami has only brought bad publicity for the rest of the conference.
 
FIU suspends 16 indefinitely and kicks 2 off the team.

Miami suspends 1 indefinitely.

Pathetic.
 
ContactBuzz said:
1 - no. Out of NCAA jurisdiction.
2 - Yes. The ACC is already involved - they initiated the punishment by suspending the 13 Miami players that were involved (although it looked like more than 13 to me) for 1 game each.
3 - Noone, other than the schools and affiliated conferences. But they should all work to lay down punishment that fits the crimes - FIU looks to have done that. The ACC and Miami have made a mockery of the situation.
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Contact Buzz,
I assure you, I'm not trying to be argumentative on your reply, but I can't help but wonder how it could be out of NCAA's jurisdiction.

Anything that is directly related to any D-1A college/university that would affect the progress, health, etc of any of it's school's sporting functions, seems that it would be in NCAA's jurisdiction.

I'm saying this knowing good and well that I have no clue to what all NCAA is or is not responsible for or has any jurisdiction in.

I suppose I just need to research out the NCAA data and learn for myself.

That really surprises me since so many other things are under their jurisdiction.
 
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