Most overrated coach in the NCAA.....

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My vote goes to Virginia's Al Groh. Not only does his teams fail to live up preseaon promises but he had 8 recruits fail to make it to Charlottesville! Infeakingcredible! Actually quite hilarious. A Bill Belicheck protege, he is quickly proving to be an embarrassment up in Hooville.:laugher:

I'd like to see another Belicheck protegy embarrassed this coming Saturday Night.
 
Well, they have whipped our tails for what 3 straight years now and has never lost to GT at home?? For such a overrated coach he still has our number somehow.
 
A minor point, but we very famously beat them in C-ville in 1990 when they were ranked #1!

But that was the last time.
 
GEETEELEE said:
A minor point, but we very famously beat them in C-ville in 1990 when they were ranked #1!

But that was the last time.
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Yes but that was THE Nose Picker.
 
Exactly, their current coach has NEVER lost to Tech at home. Sad very sad, for some reason we are cursed up there.
 
Gotta agree with SLJ, Groh is terrible. He's not as bad as Amato in my opinion, but he is close.

We lost to both of these guys last year, so what does that say?
 
Bor

you know what that says about our program if we lost to both of these guys last yr.We need to be careful about throwing rocks.
 
Mine goes to Ralphy up at UM. I know he had a good start, but that says EVERYTHING about his admin. skills as a coach. Did he make the program worse than before? Maybe not the most overrated mind of the game, but definetely most overrated HC IMHO.
 
Crazy4tech: Losing to Virginia hasn't got anything to do with it. 'OVERRATED' Groh's Cadavers have brought very very high expectations to Charlottesville and they have crashed and burned every year. Now their recruiting is becoming highly questionable.....it has to be when you can't get them into school.

Barrel: No one expects much out of NC States Coach 'Chuckles' so it is hard to call him overrated.
 
So if the coach is so poor and overrated then why does he beat us year in year out? Hell, I wish Gailey was so overrated against ugag. What does that say when we lose to a program with an overrated coach? It says we are a very middle of the road team, uva can beat us and Wake but not VT or Miami.
 
Here we go, another thread that got channed.

It's a simple concept guys...overrated in this context means what have you done with what you have. Groh has had top 10 rated recruiting teams and hasn't won commensurate with that perceived talent. Overrated doesn't mean he can't coach, it means he hasn't been able to live up to the billing they've gotten. It also doesn't mean they suck, again it means they haven't produced the way they should have. This has nothing to do with particular games or particular opponents. It also has nothing to do with Tech, unless you're arguing Chan is overrated.
 
I wasn't arguing Chan is overrated. I was saying that Amato is worse than Groh because he has seriously squandered talent. Look at his team last year for example and the amount of guys that went in the draft.

My point in saying we've lost to both, is just that. We have no room to point fingers as we have a lot to prove ourselves.

Stop getting worked up that the thread got "channed". Too sensitive.
 
Silly argument I think. We are defining these coaches as having plenty of talent, but not doing enough with them. Well, yeah, we lost to them, but aren't you then saying that we lost to two teams that had more talent than us? Just because they weren't coached up 100% of the time does not mean that they couldn't play. Some teams have good days and bad days...hell, we of all teams should know that...
 
ncjacket: Thank you very much for just understanding what my point was.

Barrel: Oh yes, Amato has squandered a helluva lot of talent. But seriously did you expect more out of him and the Wolfpack? I haven't.

Crazy4tech, so Virginia won, I suppose that with all the talent he has had he should have. But that hasn't stopped him from crashing and burning every flipping year.
 
You have to admit that a monkey could coach well against Tech with three first round defensive linemen against our OL's fifth game together. That's why Reggie damn well ran for his life for most of the game, until the OL's endurance outlasted that DL in the fourth quarter.

Remember that Chan IIRC has beaten Amato for four out of five years, not anything to be ashamed of, with a fifth game that was really a miraculous win by NC State.
 
Actually BOR I wasn't talking about you. I get your comments, it's some of the others.
 
floridajacket said:
...not anything to be ashamed of, with a fifth game that was really a miraculous win by NC State.
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...or a bonehead play call by GT. either way you want to look at it. i still dont think we shouldve been throwing from the 3 (?) yd line with PJ Daniels in the backfield... but thats just me.

There must be some bad mojo about that corner of the field for Reggie... i sat in that corner all last year and it seemed like every bad play (including the int to end the game against UGA) happened right in front of me. Maybe its just me????
 
I meant miraculous because it took...

- 2 short missed field goals
- 2 freak long plays (the flee-flicker and the missed coverage for ~80 yard pass).
- The interception

Really, if you're given the ball on the three yard line, with no timeouts, why don't you throw the pass to Calvin? It's worked so many times in the past. It will almost certainly either be incomplete or a touchdown and you can run it on the next play or set up for a tying field goal if it's incomplete. Meanwhile, if you run it, you run the risk of getting tackled and ending the game. I would have agreed with Chan that it's better to run the risk of an interception or a sack.

But hey, enough of these threads. Let's all join together in the glory of today's commitments and the stomping of the Irish on Saturday.
 
floridajacket said:
But hey, enough of these threads. Let's all join together in the glory of today's commitments and the stomping of the Irish on Saturday.
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Very true!
However, you brought up the NCS game. The problem was not the decision to throw to Calvin. The problem was the execution and the decision to throw to Calvin across the middle on a short field.

We needed to run it without a time out, or thrown the ball that RB could.
 
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