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While most of the chatter is about who the next coach might be, does anyone have any insight into what bowl we might attend? We have to pre-order tickets by Friday, does anyone think we might get Music City rather than Boise or Nut Bowl? Remember, our bowl game could either be the start of the HC Tenuta era, or last time we see the Tenuta defense at GT; either way that's a significant event for GT.
 
I still have no idea how the Emerald can take 6-6 Maryland over us. I have not seen anyone satisfactorily explain this so far.

I am hoping that AJC article about it was just misinformed.
 
I've heard most likely, Maryland to Emerald, GT to Boise to play a true away game against Boise State. I don't like that a lot, but what can you do when you're 7-5, but go where they send you?
 
Allegedly bowl bids should be finalized by Sunday. Not sure what scenario, if any, would land us in Nashville. I think it would be a real stretch, at best, to get a Music City bid.

Do you keep up with high school fb in Huntsville? Curious how my Panthers did this year.
 
I think Emerald likes UMD's win last weekend and the fact that they've never played there before. Oh well the fudgepacker bowl can shove the nut bowl trophy up their ass as far as I'm concerned.
 
ASimPerson said:
I still have no idea how the Emerald can take 6-6 Maryland over us. I have not seen anyone satisfactorily explain this so far.

I am hoping that AJC article about it was just misinformed.
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It is the Emerald Bowl's choice because MD (3-5) is within one game of GT (4-4) in the ACC standings. Thus, the Emerald Bowl can follow ACC rules to which the bowl agreed and still select MD over GT.

In general, the ACC rules specify the bowl pecking order as well as a restriction that the selections should essentially be in the order of ACC finish, although ACC bowls are allowed to skip the next highest available ACC team in the standings if the teams at issue finished within one-game of each other in the ACC standings.
 
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I am aware of the ACC rules, however, NCAA regulations explicitly state all teams with winning records must be selected before 6-6 teams with no exceptions.
Per NCAA Bylaw 30.9.2.1 an institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be selected for participation in a bowl game if 1) the institution or its conference has a primary contractual affiliation, which existed prior to the first contest of the applicable season, with the sponsoring bowl organization. In the case of a conference contractual affiliation, all conference teams with winning records must be placed in one of the contracted bowl games before any institution with a record of six wins and six losses may be placed in a contracted bowl game.
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There shall be no contingency agreements with other sponsoring bowl organizations intended to enable an institution with a record of six wins and six losses to become eligible for those contests.
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Since the Emerald selects before the Humanitarian does, it must take any 7-5 teams or better if they available before they can take Maryland.

Also, this was cited as the reason the Music City could no longer take a 6-6 Alabama after they lost, but it doesn't apply to the Emerald? Makes no sense.
 
I would rather go to Boise and play Boise St. than go to Emerald Bowl and play some nobody mid-major.
 
ASimPerson said:
I am aware of the ACC rules, however, NCAA regulations explicitly state all teams with winning records must be selected before 6-6 teams with no exceptions.
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Yes, both the 6-6 and 7-5 ACC teams will be selected, but the NCAA does not specify in which bowls the teams are to play.

The ACC could place Maryland in the Orange Bowl if they wanted to do so without violating NCAA rules.

If the ACC had 9 bowl-eligible teams and 8 bowl slots, the NCAA rules prohibit the ACC from picking a 6 - 6 team for a bowl slot while leaving a 7 - 5 team at home for the holidays. The rules do not specify which bowls that teams have to attend or a selection order for matching teams with bowls.

As an attorney, I can do a literal parsing of the NCAA bylaw language if you want me to do so, but notice that the bylaw uses the word "placed" and not "selected."

The ACC allows the ACC-affiliated bowls to place GT in Boise and Maryland in San Francisco according to the prioritized preferences of the Emerald and Humanitarian bowl committees.
 
The thing I quoted explicitly states "before", which implies (to me) that the NCAA is aware of the selection order most bowls have, and therefore, a bowl with a choice must select a team with a winning record before it can take a 6-6 team.
 
ASimPerson said:
The thing I quoted explicitly states "before", which implies (to me) that the NCAA is aware of the selection order most bowls have, and therefore, a bowl with a choice must select a team with a winning record before it can take a 6-6 team.
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The ACC would respond that all the placements or matchings of ACC teams to ACC bowls are done simultaneously. There is no before or after. There is a prioritized ranking that is used to match bowl committee preferences for teams with available teams, and there is an NCAA requirement that 7 - 5 ACC teams have priority of going to a bowl (but not a specific bowl) over teams with a 6 - 6 record being allowed to go to a bowl (but not a specific bowl).
 
JTS said:
I would rather go to Boise and play Boise St. than go to Emerald Bowl and play some nobody mid-major.
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i was thinking the Emerald Bowl is gonna take a decent Pac 10 team like Cal
 
Gentlemen, Gentlemen, let's not get into a riff over which crappy other timezone bowl game we end up in. I want Music City simply because it is an easy drive from my house or Atlanta; plus we'd play a SEC there which would be interesting to the fans of both schools. If we don't play east of the Mississippi, my holiday planning gets much less complicated.
 
Well, I think we all want to go to Nashville, but the Music City apparently wants a FSU team that just got slaughtered by its rival.

Also, I think UCLA's going to end up in the Emerald unless there's some shenanigans in the Pac-10 this weekend.
 
you're right ASim, looks like UCLA, i was thinking Cal for some reason
 
ASimPerson said:
Well, I think we all want to go to Nashville, but the Music City apparently wants a FSU team that just got slaughtered by its rival.
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In going to minor bowls, I would rather see GT in Nashville or Charlotte than somewhere out west because other GT fans/alumni and I would be more likely to attend a bowl game in Nashville or Charlotte. However, I do not think it is going to happen this year.
 
GTfanNBama said:
you're right ASim, looks like UCLA, i was thinking Cal for some reason
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I've seen Cal in other places as well, but I think they'll be helped in where they end up because:
1) Their last game is against Stanford
2) Oregon is falling like a rock without Dixon. They got shutout by UCLA last weekend. I think Oregon will drop pretty far in the Pac-10 hierarchy, despite their overall record.
 
HAven't the players already said that if it comes down to San Fran or Boise, they'd rather play on the blue field because that bowl gives out cooler stuff?
 
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