IMO joe might be considered a sleeper, but I'm not sure of that. Because, and the BIG QUESTION IS did Auburn and NC ST offer. The Hive data base says that is so, and if that is correct then I would not necessarily call him a sleeper. My question also is why did we get in on him late, but that may not be so either! He just appeared on the aforementione data base late. Either way he being sleeper or a true blue chipper he looks to me like very good pick up. 6'3and 230 or40 lbs. runs 4.67-40, 2nd team coaches 5a all state looks impressive. With those stats ect. why wasn't he recruited even more, and maybe he was!!!! Darn glad to have you here on flats Joe and good luck!!!