My Thoughts (Post UVA)

JTS

JTS

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I knew Notre Dame was not a top 25 team this year, but I figured that they would be a respectable team so when both our lines bulldozed over them in the opening game I thought that we would be really good like a lot of people. Reality has now sunk in. Beating Notre Dame was like beating Duke or Northwestern.

People who read my posts know that I have been highly critical of Gailey and have called for his head mulitple times in the past, but I can't blame the past 2 losses on coaching. BC did not outcoach us they outmanned us. We admittedly did not play well against UVA, but we still should have won if not for a really flukey interception and a muffed punt neither of which can be blamed on the coaches.

We do not have a good O-line. We were fooled the past couple of years into believing we had a pretty good line because Calvin Johnson drew people away from the line of scrimmage and we kept our TE into block virtually every down to cover up our woeful pass blocking. Now that CJ is gone and we actually send the TE out every once in awhile, the OL is being exposed.

Our WRs do not get open and when they do they drop it way too much. James Johnson would not be the #1 WR on any other team in the ACC including Duke. Remember when Lavon Thomas was our #3 WR. Are any of our WRs as good as him? Outside of CJ have we recruited a WR that can both get open and catch the ball in the last 6 years. I like Greg Smith a lot, but on the whole our WRs are not that good.

We should have gotten rid of Gailey after years 2, 3, and 4 because of the abyssmal staff he hired or how he was clueless about GT and the college game, but now he's finally put together a real D-IA quality coaching staff with a quality DC, Recruiting Coordinator (and system), and an OC that I think will work out. The problems we are having now are personnel driven IMO and are the result of Gailey's insane initial recruiting philosophy and Coach Dumb-Dumb that he hired to run recruiting. We need an upgrade at the OL and WR coach positions and to give our improved recruiting system time to stock the pond. I think that things are moving in the right direction, but we are still having to overcome past errors.
 
These are pretty much my thoughts too. We lost Calvin last year and Choice before the UVA game, two of the few starters on our team who would start for any D-IA school out there.

I won't blame Dave Wilson (and by extent CCG) completely for it, though. The GTAA could not have supported CCG worse during his first few years.

First, there's flunkgate. Those players are long gone, but multiple things happened due to Carol Moore that still affect this team. First, it did hurt the team's record greatly, hurting recruiting until after the 2005 season. Secondly, the Hill did take a zero-tolerance stance on recruits after flunkgate, giving CCG academic requirements that GOL never had to meet with his classes.

Next, there's probation. For the GTAA, it was almost like Three Mile Island. The administrators had to do just about every possible thing wrong and nothing right to get on probation. Probation's affects are probably the worst this year, with three years of around 20 recruits proceeding this year.

It's no surprise after all this that we've ended up with such lacking personnel. WRs, in particular, have been the poorest recruited position and it shows in their playmaking ability. I don't think any route will get these guys open with any consistency and when they do, they'll usually drop it anyways.

About the only positive about this whole thing is that GT looks to be turning it around recruiting wise. The 2007 class was excellent for a non-football-factory and even the 2008 class looks worlds better than the 2006 class. While many hope for a new coach, I'm starting to hope that we make this year respectable to keep good recruits. If given the chance, we can hopefully turn it around with better assistant coaches and better support from the administration.
 
wesleyd21 said:
so basically, we stink because of gailey?
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First, I don't really disagee with what you said except we don't stink. We are very middle of road because Gailey was only able to screw up the offense and recruiting his first 4-5 years and offense got slightly bailed out by CJ. If Gailey had hired this staff and employed this recruiting system right out of the gate, we would be in a better place today.
 
I really believe this may be the finest post

JTS said:
I knew Notre Dame was not a top 25 team this year, but I figured that they would be a respectable team so when both our lines bulldozed over them in the opening game I thought that we would be really good like a lot of people. Reality has now sunk in. Beating Notre Dame was like beating Duke or Northwestern.

People who read my posts know that I have been highly critical of Gailey and have called for his head mulitple times in the past, but I can't blame the past 2 losses on coaching. BC did not outcoach us they outmanned us. We admittedly did not play well against UVA, but we still should have won if not for a really flukey interception and a muffed punt neither of which can be blamed on the coaches.

We do not have a good O-line. We were fooled the past couple of years into believing we had a pretty good line because Calvin Johnson drew people away from the line of scrimmage and we kept our TE into block virtually every down to cover up our woeful pass blocking. Now that CJ is gone and we actually send the TE out every once in awhile, the OL is being exposed.

Our WRs do not get open and when they do they drop it way too much. James Johnson would not be the #1 WR on any other team in the ACC including Duke. Remember when Lavon Thomas was our #3 WR. Are any of our WRs as good as him? Outside of CJ have we recruited a WR that can both get open and catch the ball in the last 6 years. I like Greg Smith a lot, but on the whole our WRs are not that good.

We should have gotten rid of Gailey after years 2, 3, and 4 because of the abyssmal staff he hired or how he was clueless about GT and the college game, but now he's finally put together a real D-IA quality coaching staff with a quality DC, Recruiting Coordinator (and system), and an OC that I think will work out. The problems we are having now are personnel driven IMO and are the result of Gailey's insane initial recruiting philosophy and Coach Dumb-Dumb that he hired to run recruiting. We need an upgrade at the OL and WR coach positions and to give our improved recruiting system time to stock the pond. I think that things are moving in the right direction, but we are still having to overcome past errors.
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ever typed on a GT message board. I really think for GT's sake it is best that Gailey just leave on his own but if he wins 8 and beats UGA, I'll support keeping him.

I can't believe our line play. i really thought our d line was FSU or MIA or LSU like after the ND game. I hear Kirk Herbstreit so we had a top 5 defense the week of the BC game so I think our dline fooled a lot of us.

I wasn't ever completely sold on the o line because of what other more knowledgeable folks have been saying for awhile.

thanks for a great post. Does this mean we could beat CU? their recruting is not that much better than ours the last 3 years other than Spiller.
 
JTS is saying our players simply aren't that good. Other than Tenuta's abysmal first quarter rock-paper-scissor skills, I have to agree.
 
beej67 said:
JTS is saying our players simply aren't that good. Other than Tenuta's abysmal first quarter rock-paper-scissor skills, I have to agree.
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Beej, I think if you look through the numbers you will find that Tenuta's defense has not given up many points in the 1st quarter historically.
 
Tell me why again we renewed his contract for an additional 5 years?
 
GTKyle said:
Tell me why again we renewed his contract for an additional 5 years?
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We knew that we were going to get probation which would make it hard to find a replacement. We could not afford the buyout. It was good for recruiting. And I think Dave Braine enjoyed sticking it to us on the way out the door.
 
The sentiments of most Tech fans is they have had enough of Chan Gailey. There is no excuse for coming out with lackluster effort two games in a row. It is interesting to note, that when Jeremy Foley (athletic director at Florida) was faced with a similarly restless fan base a few years ago during the Ron Zook era, he did not hesitate to get rid of him He said " If you know you are going to have to do something sooner or later, it is best to go ahead and get it done immediately rather than wait" My sentiments exactly.
 
Beej, I think if you look through the numbers you will find that Tenuta's defense has not given up many points in the 1st quarter historically.
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As you are well aware, from watching me at the lake house two months ago, throwing ROCK every play can work for a bit, but eventually everyone figures it out. JT's defense has, in two consecutive games, given up two consecutive over 80 yard TD drives to start both games, and in both, the playcalls were blitz-blitz-blitz-blitz-blitz-TD.
 
JTS said:
We knew that we were going to get probation which would make it hard to find a replacement. We could not afford the buyout. It was good for recruiting. And I think Dave Braine enjoyed sticking it to us on the way out the door.
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IIRC, there is no buyout in his contract.
 
spellingbee said:
IIRC, there is no buyout in his contract.
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There is no buyout if someone wants to hire him away from us, but if we fire him we still have to pay him the rest of his contract, but we would probably negotiate a buyout if we fired him. We cannot afford to do either and have money to hire another HC.
 
JTS said:
There is no buyout if someone wants to hire him away from us, but if we fire him we still have to pay him the rest of his contract, but we would probably negotiate a buyout if we fired him. We cannot afford to do either and have money to hire another HC.
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Let me take this opportunity to send a big old "screw you" to Dave Braine.
 
Our WRs do not get open and when they do they drop it way too much. James Johnson would not be the #1 WR on any other team in the ACC including Duke. Remember when Lavon Thomas was our #3 WR. Are any of our WRs as good as him? Outside of CJ have we recruited a WR that can both get open and catch the ball in the last 6 years. I like Greg Smith a lot, but on the whole our WRs are not that good.
 
JTS said:
There is no buyout if someone wants to hire him away from us, but if we fire him we still have to pay him the rest of his contract, but we would probably negotiate a buyout if we fired him. We cannot afford to do either and have money to hire another HC.
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So with the language of the contract written the way it is --if DRad felt compelled to terminate CCG's contract he would much prefer someone like a Miami Dolphins or Pittsburgh Steelers to come around and pluck him away from Tech. He would rid himself of the coach he doesn't want and save millions in the process.

Who knows what DRad is thinking regarding CCG. I would have to believe that another 7-8 win season ending with a loss to UGA would send the season ticket requests south for the '08 season. That would certainly leave DRad with some thinking to do --among other things, potential buyout costs vs potential revenue loss.
 
GT65_UGA89 said:
So with the language of the contract written the way it is --if DRad felt compelled to terminate CCG's contract he would much prefer someone like a Miami Dolphins or Pittsburgh Steelers to come around and pluck him away from Tech. He would rid himself of the coach he doesn't want and save millions in the process.

Who knows what DRad is thinking regarding CCG. I would have to believe that another 7-8 win season ending with a loss to UGA would send the season ticket requests south for the '08 season. That would certainly leave DRad with some thinking to do --among other things, potential buyout costs vs potential revenue loss.
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Thank God I don't have to worry about him going to the Steelers anymore.
 
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