I think we are discussing the essence of what it means to be a Tech fan - desperation - we wait 20 to 40 years to have a shot at being the best in the nation, I don't think Tech administration is willing to do what's necessary to have a champion year after year, so here we are - the fans giving their money, sitting in half full stadiums, playing teams that don't care and have no heritage of winning, we end up deluded, waiting for next year to do it all again, but I love Ga. Tech and always will, it's just seems there is no progressive philsophy to make the football fans happy.