NCAA Is A Total Mess - Impact Players That Could Return

My question is when do the schools start poaching the lowest paid NFL players? These guys are the league's rejects. Go after the ones with eligibility that can make twice their salary off the bottom of the rosters.

If we're gonna play in this stupid environment, might as well be one step ahead of everyone else.
 
gambler said:
My question is when do the schools start poaching the lowest paid NFL players? These guys are the league's rejects. Go after the ones with eligibility that can make twice their salary off the bottom of the rosters.

If we're gonna play in this stupid environment, might as well be one step ahead of everyone else.
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Well, since all the P4 conferences have now issued statements that won't allow former professional athletes who have played with the NFL or NBA to compete with their current professional athletes who claim to be amateurs, this isn't really a concern anymore.
 
Seems like this one is simple to handle for each of the P4 conferences. Tell the schools:
"Any team who plays a player for even one snap of any game in 2026 who has been on any NFL team will be ineligible for the college football playoff." Judges don't have a say in that, I wouldn't imagine.
 
SMoney said:
And just like that, judge puts the new SEC rule on hold…

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First and foremost, it’s not an sec rule. It’s all conferences. B1G was first, and like usual the ACC was last. The judge can do whatever he wants, the conferences have every right in this situation to hold the line. They were getting paid by an NFL team. You are then by that rule, ineligible.
 
USCJacket said:
First and foremost, it’s not an sec rule. It’s all conferences. B1G was first, and like usual the ACC was last. The judge can do whatever he wants, the conferences have every right in this situation to hold the line. They were getting paid by an NFL team. You are then by that rule, ineligible.
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Yeah that's the way I was imagining it. This judge issuing a stay on their conference rules is akin to telling the NFL they can't cut certain people.
 
daBuzz said:
Yeah that's the way I was imagining it. This judge issuing a stay on their conference rules is akin to telling the NFL they can't cut certain people.
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The difference is the NFL has a player's association and they are in agreement with the owners. If the owners start messing with the player's pay but cutting top prospects to pare down salary caps, I guarantee a judge gets involved.

But no team is gonna do that because you don't make money losing.
 
Trying to get my head around judges telling conferences they can't disallow pro players returning to college. It's like telling high school competitions they have to let graduates who washed out at the college level come back and continue playing. Hell, maybe Uncle Rico will get that state title.

Also crazy that state judges are presuming to govern how multi-state organizations and competitions operate. I'm one who believes the commerce clause has been abused at the federal level, but the P4 conferences clearly engage in interstate commerce. Regional conferences (arguably national now) exist to promote and manage competition across state lines.
 
USCJacket said:
They’ve been getting paid for decades whether in High School or College. It’s just legal in the eyes of the NCAA via the Supreme Court.

Yeah sure “college” you say. Yet there’s never been guidelines in place preventing said scholarship from being removed by the coach in place of someone else they feel will be a better player on the field. They are 1 year scholarships renewed coincidentally by the staff. So don’t try and play the college tuition, etc card. It’s garbage. Players have been forced out long before the Portal was in existence due to fake injuries according to coaches, etc. So explain the “college” part again? There are no 4 year guaranteed binding scholarships between a coach and SA. And with that said, when is the last time you’ve heard academics and scholarships mentioned when recruiting since the NIL era? There is only 1 time on record GT has lost a commitment lately due to academics.

So you think players should get nothing, while conference commissioners down to coaches make millions and 10+ million per year in some cases?

Indiana didn’t buy a National Championship. Their roster wasn’t even in the Top 10 last year as far as so called $$$ spent.

Yeah. I’m looking at the so called Top 20. I see the following who sure don’t look like the usual teams from the pre NIL days.

Indiana, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Texas Tech, BYU, Washington, SMU. If you want to expand it to the Top 25, add in Houston, Missouri, Louisville. Heck, Miami was a train wreck for the most part since joining the ACC. Richt elevated them briefly, but that’s about it before Mario C.

I don’t see FSU, Nebraska, UF, Clemson (according to the AP), Auburn, etc who were staples of the so called Top 25 pre NIL.
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A minority of players and programs cheated. A minority of people drink and drive. But most people would agree legalizing bad behavior isn’t a good solution to a problem.

The problem, as you correctly point out is that the coaches, ADs, and people in charge had no moral high ground to enforce penalties on players paid under the table because they were making way too much money. But rather than cap salaries no higher than presidents, deans or tenured professors, and enforce penalties they decided to make a mess of college football.

There was never one single thing preventing a coach or a player from taking their talent to the NFL, CFL, UFL, or Arena League if they wanted to make money.

One thing for sure. It’s here to stay. Sounds like you approve and enjoy it. Good.
 
USCJacket said:
Question is…..Why are you against people making $$$ while the NCAA, conferences, coaches, schools, AD’s, presidents have profited off them for decades? Why as players not allowed to make $$$ from appearances or signing merchandise, etc like everyone else?

Indiana is example A of what the right coach and overall infrastructure has done in the new NIL era. They were the worst program in P4 history by record until Cignetti. Do you think Indiana would have only lost 2 games combined and won an NC in the last 2 years if not for the NIL era? It would still be the same 5-6 teams on repeat if not for this new era. Texas Tech (good or bad) is another example of the new found success in the NIL era.
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Ostensibly, the colleges were trading a meaningful degrees in lieu of payment. The problem is that too many programs have been exploitive of the talent and either failed to keep up with their end of the bargain, or went about it with sham courses and no-show lectures.

At least NIL drops the pretense, allowing players to get something out of the deal other than a worthless piece of paper masking their illiteracy.
 
Tampa Jacket said:
A minority of players and programs cheated. A minority of people drink and drive. But most people would agree legalizing bad behavior isn’t a good solution to a problem.
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BS. I would say it's more like a very small minority was not doing it in some form or fashion. The difference was the levels some were willing to go.

If you happen to know any of the players from the earlier eras, go ask them.
 
The SEC will absolutely let these guys play. They are all words no action. Sankey is smart enough to know a judge would do this so he could say all the right things for propaganda purposes knowing they would get to play anyway. The SEC hasn’t changed at all. But, I do admire their willingness to do what it takes to win.
 
OptionJacket said:
The SEC will absolutely let these guys play. They are all words no action. Sankey is smart enough to know a judge would do this so he could say all the right things for propaganda purposes knowing they would get to play anyway. The SEC hasn’t changed at all. But, I do admire their willingness to do what it takes to win.
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I went to high school with a guy who in his early 20’s became a drug dealer. He wasn’t just a low level seller he was a supplier. I knew that in high school he never messed with drugs. Later after he got caught served his time and years later was released. I asked him how did he ever allow himself to get caught up in such a horrible enterprise. He said if people are stupid enough to take drugs and destroy their own body, that he saw no reason not to make easy money off of them. This bizarre rationale is the way I look at the SEC.
 
Hope you’re sitting down, this is going to shock you. But the SEC says they have *no choice* but to follow a judge’s orders and let former pros play.

No Lane! Don’t throw us in that briar patch!

 
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