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Tyler Melton out of Texas. 6 ft 185lb WR. Wants to be an engineer at the 4th ranked engineering school. Will enroll in January.
 
70 catches for almost 1000 yds is pretty impressive. 2nd team all-state in Texas is also very impressive. Glad to have his, that's for sure.

Welcome Aboard Tyler!!
Go Jackets!!
 
btw, the 6-0 and 182 are combine measurables, so they are accurate. Also, he is enrolling in January and we had one available from last year so he will count against those.

I checked out his video and he seems to have incredible hands. Of course, they do not show drops on highlight reels!...but he grabbed multiple balls in traffic on fade patterns (you do not see a lot of those in HS) and caught multiple throws across the middle in traffic. Plus, he runs really well after the catch. He looks a lot like Nate Curry. I would put Cam Baker in that same category.
 
His accolades are indeed impressive. I think his video is ok. His measurables at 6-0 185 lbs with 4.5 speed this early in the game seem a bit of a reach. The fact that he can come in early and not count against this year's scholly totals is a huge plus. We need to be very selective about the 17 schollies we have to give.
 
You must not have read my post. His measurables of 6-0 and 182 are from the Rivals combine...they are official.

You said his video was "ok". What in the world could you not like about it? It is extremely rare to see high school kids snagging fades in traffic and catching balls across the middle in traffic.

Plus....he was at our camp so all of our coaches got the sneak peek before the offer.
 
His video is own Rivals....crap....I hope Scout hurries up and get some film. I'm anxious to get a look at him.

He already had offers from Rice, Iowa State, Air Force.....with it being this early in the process that ain't bad.

Welcome aboard Tyler!
 
thanks for the open mind BOR. Once you see the film, you will like it. Looks just like Nate Curry to me.
 
Honestly?...as much a recruiting junkie as I am...

.....I'd just as soon NO add'l film on this guy gets out. Heck....burn the stuff already out there!

He's now a NATS commitment! The FEWER looks other staffs get at him, the better for us!
 
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You said his video was "ok". What in the world could you not like about it? Plus....he was at our camp so all of our coaches got the sneak peek before the offer.

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That was indeed impressive. I like a receiver willing to go over the middle. I am no expert at reviewing film, that said...What I would have liked to see more of is yards after the catch and speed on the deep ball. Most of his catches seemed to be at seven yards on a slant pattern and then gain a couple of more while being tackled.

Earls was a small receiver but a true burner. Melton looks to fit the mold of a possession receiver. At 6 feet 182, that is a a tad small. But like I said, he's got the accolades so maybe we have extended an offer to someone who can help us immediately. His QB from last year went on to play college ball so hopefully there won't be a drop off in performance.

As far as our coaches evaluating him earlier. I have not grown comfortable yet with our coaches abilities to recruit, although this year seems to have started out better... we will see in February. I hope they have turned the corner in recruiting.
 
Recruting and evaluating are two different things. CCG and staff have always been good at evaluating the talent. Recruiting them was the problem.
 
I saw a lot of fly patterns on the film as well. If you are not getting YAC then you would not have 1,000 yds on 70 catches for a 14.3 YPC avg.
 
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Recruting and evaluating are two different things. CCG and staff have always been good at evaluating the talent. Recruiting them was the problem.

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Huh? If our recruiting has not been up to par over the past couple of years which it definately hasn't, then how are you evaluating talent correctly? Look at the number of people who came from unknown to profiled GT recruit. I'm not saying that they won't contribute, but I guarantee you the good majority of them won't.

Evaluating talent has just as much to do as when they were evaluated and when they got the offer, as it is whether or not you think they can play ball. It also has a lot to do with how many kids you are evaluating. So to me evaluating talent has always been a problem. We didn't evalaute a lot of it and ended up playing catch up with other schools. We also probably took guys earlier than we should have because of the fact we didn't evaluate enough talent early enough.

Everyone is excited about this recruiting season, and I am too, but frankly, we won't know anything until February. If you believe right now that our recruiting is indeed improving then there really isn't much hard evidence to prove that other than coaching changes. We're all just hoping at this point.
 
Welcome to the Flats young man, Great choice!! Looking forward to seeing you tear it up in the years to come.

Go Jackets! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
 
It makes perfect sense. We evaluated well, but did not get to see enough players or work the ones we wanted hard enough.

We had real problems with the coaches that are no longer here beating the pavement...and Tenuta does not recruit (which is fine since he is a good DC).

We now have multiple great recruiters...and Collins forces a lot of action by helping get an unprecedented amount of unofficial visits over the past few months. Giff Smith, Brian Jean-Marie, Curtis Modkins, and Coach D are really hitting stride. Hunter and Kelly will be right with them after getting their new sales pitch down.

Again...I have followed GT recruiting intently for 20-25 years now...and this is the most on-campus activity I have seen prior to fall ever...by far. Now, we still have The Hill issue(s) to confront, but that is another issue for another thread.

I love having Gilbert, Tarrant, Jefferson, and Pelton on board and can see where they each will contribute. More great news will come in mid to late July.
 
all your points are questionable. Though I agree on the old coach and tenuta comments.

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We evaluated well, but did not get to see enough players or work the ones we wanted hard enough.

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How have we evaluated well? Most of our great players have been O'Leary's recruits up until this point, and the ones that are Gailey's are still up to debate. Is Calvin, the DLine Darryl's, Kenny Scott great evaluations considering everyone and their mother wanted them? Or were they great recruiting efforts? Or Choice who transfered? We've apparently made great evaluations on many kids that haven't started yet or produced on the field. The ones who have have been the exception and not the rule.

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We now have multiple great recruiters...and Collins forces a lot of action by helping get an unprecedented amount of unofficial visits over the past few months. Giff Smith, Brian Jean-Marie, Curtis Modkins, and Coach D are really hitting stride. Hunter and Kelly will be right with them after getting their new sales pitch down.

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We won't know this until they prove it and the last two seasons according to the services don't say this. We have unknown commodities. Its like saying that "Rickey Williams is a great 1st round draft pick." At the time, he was a great pick because he was an unknown commodity. Is he great now? No. I'm not saying these guys won't turn out to be, but right not it is too early to say.

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Again...I have followed GT recruiting intently for 20-25 years now...and this is the most on-campus activity I have seen prior to fall ever...by far. Now, we still have The Hill issue(s) to confront, but that is another issue for another thread.

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I have for 16 years, and while your observation is up to debate, I can tell you one thing. Recruiting is not so much who you bring to the campus but is as much who you reach out to and go visit. I seem to recall years in the late 90's where we had visiting presence in all of the Southern States. Is as much as going to see them as it is what is going on, on the campus. But I do agree with you that the campus events have seemed to make a huge improvement.

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I love having Gilbert, Tarrant, Jefferson, and Pelton on board and can see where they each will contribute. More great news will come in mid to late July.

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Yes I agree. And I love having Melton instead of Pelton too. However, I don't know if they will contribute anyhting significantly. To predict that is pretty ballsy. And I also expect more great news to come later. It is important that we have a stellar recruiting year inspite of the fact that we can only take 17 recruits. Hence my skepticism at the unknown's this early in the recruiting game. Though I appreciate and support all GT current and future SA's.
 
My only real problem with your comments BOR is that you of all people should know that the summer camps are just gearing up and many kids get their major offers after those camps. There's a story on the Hive about 2 kids who just committed to ugag who had very few offers prior to camps (including offers from Tech) but who got others after the camp season got underway. ugag had not offered them prior to them attending their camp for one, and both accepted when offered. So from your comments, if either had accepted our offer prior to the camps and then ugag had not offered if they were convinced they wouldn't renege, then those kids would not be good enough for Tech?

I can understand skepticism. But your view of this year's efforts are no more valid than anyone else's. We can debate past success or failure, but questioning commits we have this year is silly because it's so early in the game.
 
Exactly.

Everyone will see far fewer fall official visits than in the past because offers are going out much earlier. David Wilson was well behind this trend. Enter Geoff Collins. Before he was organizing it, Giff Smith, Jean-Marie, Modkins, and Coach D were all out there working solo. There was no support in strategy or visible work.

This will all not be as evident in this recruiting class as the next one because the new "system" will have two years to work on the rising juniors.

I am just glad to see that their hard recruiting efforts have led so many kids from across the country to spend their own $$ to visit unofficially. This means that we are at least getting these young man to consider Tech. That is a far cry from the previous few years.

BOR:
Regarding Choice...you can go back and pick out thousands of misses both positive and negative across the country. In football, the top 100-150 are the only "mostly sure" bets. You win by properly identifying and recruiting the next 150-1000. Choice WAS offered a scholarship by us. UGA did not offer him. The rest of the southeast did not show love either (except Miss St and Alabama). Ironically, Oklahoma did. As we neared the end of recruiting, he was still leaning toward Oklahoma so we had to move on. It is a judgement call. We already had a commitment from a National Top 100 player in Rashaun Grant at RB and we wanted to go out and get this no name 6-2, 225 lb. LB from Pensacola named Joe Anoai. btw...after Joe committed Florida and Auburn tried to come in the last two weeks and he obviously stayed firm with us. btw...we had another National Top 100 recruit in Kenny Scott that year. Patrick Nix recruited him and Grant. another side note from that class, KaMichael Hall received zero attention from his home state and now is considered an NFL draft pick. Avery Roberson, who is still trying to find his way and is working hard, was a Atlanta Journal Constitution Super 11 player.

.....in summation...lets not play the can't miss or will miss game.

ps...or we can talk about Ben Logue, Derrek Steagall, etc. :-)
 
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BOR:
Regarding Choice...you can go back and pick out thousands of misses both positive and negative across the country. In football, the top 100-150 are the only "mostly sure" bets. You win by properly identifying and recruiting the next 150-1000. Choice WAS offered a scholarship by us. UGA did not offer him. The rest of the southeast did not show love either (except Miss St and Alabama). Ironically, Oklahoma did. As we neared the end of recruiting, he was still leaning toward Oklahoma so we had to move on. It is a judgement call. We already had a commitment from a National Top 100 player in Rashaun Grant at RB and we wanted to go out and get this no name 6-2, 225 lb. LB from Pensacola named Joe Anoai. btw...after Joe committed Florida and Auburn tried to come in the last two weeks and he obviously stayed firm with us. btw...we had another National Top 100 recruit in Kenny Scott that year. Patrick Nix recruited him and Grant. another side note from that class, KaMichael Hall received zero attention from his home state and now is considered an NFL draft pick. Avery Roberson, who is still trying to find his way and is working hard, was a Atlanta Journal Constitution Super 11 player.

.....in summation...lets not play the can't miss or will miss game.

ps...or we can talk about Ben Logue, Derrek Steagall, etc. :-)

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Choice was not offered by Tech. We recruited him hard and he was a top choice, but GT wanted Reshaun Grant and told him if he committed then they would not take any other RB's. That's why Choice did not end up at Tech. At the time, many people, inlcuding me were completely miffed at Gailey's recruiting strategy that he could only afford one RB in that class. I thought is was a stupid move at the time.

Anyway, you are right regarding the hits and misses, but that's not my point. My point was that there is not enough evidence out there to say that our recruiting evaluations have been above par. If anything the evidence says exactly the opposite. But I agree that I do think we probably have turned the corner. Hopefully, it is not too late.
 
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Choice was not offered by Tech.

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This is not true. He had an offer with a time limit and did not take it. When he was ready to commit (supposedly) the offer was not still on the table.

BOR, you just always try to find more fault than find positives. It is quite sickening.
 
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BOR, you just always try to find more fault than find positives. It is quite sickening.

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I disagree. BOR has mellowed a lot since his trip to VPI last fall and I find his contributions reasonable, if not always agreeable to me.

Peace, bro's! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hugelaugh.gif
 
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