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GTLand's comment in yesterday's practice report about TJ Barnes turning heads and possibly starting next year spurred me to start this thread.

Looking to next year, our losses will be almost solely on the lines.

D-line we will lose 3, vance, mj, and drich. Also Elris who gets a lot of pt is a senior, i believe. It will be important for TJ, and big ben and the others to step in. These players will be the hardest to replace imo.

Oline we will lose Gardner, Aj, and David Brown. I think we have recruited well enough that there should be no huge dropoff here.

In the secondary it should be only Jahi.
None of the starting linebackers, WRs, A's, B's, or Qb should be gone.

This means we will most likely lose a MAX of 7 starters. I know we always lose a couple of guys to attrition but its still exciting. I believe PJs schemes will be successful this year but imagine next year when we have 15 or so starters back with a year under their belts. Too bad I'll be getting out in december. (never thought i'd say that.)

Any thoughts? Am I leaving out any starters?
 
DL starters..
Morgan
TJ barnes
Anderson
Peters

LB's
AT barnes
Jefferson
Jackson

DB's
Butler
Tarrant :) (or Reid)

Safeties
Burnette
Reese


Offense
QB-Nesbitt

Bback- Dwyer

Abacks-
Jones
Smith

WR's
Earls
D thomas

Oline
CLaytor
Hill
Voss
Gilbert
Yandell

with a year under our belt, we should be pretty good in '09
 
hiveredtech said:
Do not count out Shane Bowen. He just missed spring practice due to injury which set him back...just like AJ Smith and Cord Howard.
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with one more year on the field and in the wieght room, i think Jackson probably will have more upside and will out play Bowen for the job.
 
Shane was injured early last year but player hurt. Don't count him out so early!
 
I've been thinking that 2010 will be our first "peak year" under Johnson, and that we could return 19-20 starters.

On GTland's 2009 depth chart there are only two seniors, Smith and Voss.

So barring attrition we'd return TWENTY starters -- 11 on D and 9 on O. And if you consider the fact that Anthony Allen started for a year at Louisville, that's like returning 21 starters. And we'll be LOADED with depth behind them.

Look at the level of backfield talent:

QB -- Nesbitt, Shaw, Luallen
B-Back -- Dwyer, Watson, Drummond
A-Back -- Jones, Allen, Wright, Peeples

This is the best backfield talent in modern GT history, all in their third year under the best running game coaches in the country, with every player around them except the center back from the previous year, and with great depth behind them at every position.

We could be AWESOME in 2010.

I don't just mean just good, like in '98 or 2000. That was previously the height of my hopes, to be that good sometimes. But now I think we'll be that good on a fairly regular basis under Johnson and that would be merely okay for a "peak year".

Don't shoot me for being too optimistic. Bear with me for a minute while I share the dream, because it ain't impossible. It could happen.

In 2010 we might, just maybe, have a chance to see something I never expected to see in my lifetime:

Mid-90's Nebraska on the Flats -- but literate and wearing white and gold.

Season tickets sold out and every game packed for the long-awaited return of the Golden Tornado.
 
I don't just mean just good, like in '98 or 2000. That was previously the height of my hopes, to be that good sometimes. But now I think we'll be that good on a fairly regular basis under Johnson and that would be merely okay for a "peak year".

Don't shoot me for being too optimistic. Bear with me for a minute while I share the dream, because it ain't impossible. It could happen.

In 2010 we might, just maybe, have a chance to see something I never expected to see in my lifetime:

Mid-90's Nebraska on the Flats -- but literate and wearing white and gold.

Season tickets sold out and every game packed for the long-awaited return of the Golden Tornado.[/quote]

There is NO reason that Gt cannot become the Nebraska of the 90's very shortly...P.J. can get it done and once we start winning we can annually land talent like we did 2 years ago with Chan (that class with Nesbitt,Dwyer,Burnette exct.) was the best in our history period...We can do that every year once P.J. get's us rolling...You give him talent like that on a yearly basis and we can become the next Miami....A dynasty....
It is time some Gt fans quit thinking small and think big...This mentality drove Ross nuts and P.J. came here as he said, to win championships, none of this excuse making, welllll we can't do that here...

P.J. gives us the possibilty to take it to that elusive "Next Level" He has strong ties to this state and WANTS to be here...I think the key in all of this is DEFENSE...Can and will P.J. recruit consistently the great defensive players that Gailey did bring in, and will Wommack (Or whoever P.J. brings in as DC in his tenure here) get us to play dominant defense...
The reason I say DEFENSE is because, we will always be good on offense, the key for us to becoming a great program over the long run is, to have the old Miami/Fsu defenses...After being at Fsu several years and being really good on offense, Bobby Bowden finally made that committment to defense and brought in Mickey Andrews from Clemson and committed to hauling in great defensive talent on that side of the ball, that is when Fsu got really good...

I'm impressed with the defensive talent so far that P.J. is getting, we just have to keep doing it and step it up even higher...We need to start winning and get to a point that the Darren Myles and Branden Smith's that are within walking distance from our campus have us as their 1 choice and we are annually attracting that type of talent...
 
I buy the whole 2010 thing, but I hate when we can look at a year and say "This is when we should be good" because when it rolls around, the hype is so high and any early letdowns can destroy the buzz.

My preference would be to be picked as a Top 20 team and come out and exceed all expectations. THEN I want us to be viewed as a premier program. Give them a reason to hype us other than "They're due."
 
The Jacket said:
I buy the whole 2010 thing, but I hate when we can look at a year and say "This is when we should be good" because when it rolls around, the hype is so high and any early letdowns can destroy the buzz.
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I get what you're saying.

If we play remotely close to our potential in 2009, then we're gonna be very hyped in 2010. Probably even moreso than Clemson this year. There's just no way around it.

We're just gonna have to get used to it. We might not win the MNC or even the ACC in 2010, but I don't think we'll be a disappointing, 9-4 kind of team either.

Even years don't seem like our best bets to win championsihps, with UGA, VT, Clemson and UNC on the road. But then our peak years lately have been 98, 2000 and 2006.
 
On GTlands list you over looked Cord Howard

Oline
CLaytor
Hill
Voss
Gilbert
Yandell

On GTland's 2009 depth chart there are only two seniors, Smith and Voss.

Hill would be a senior as well.
 
GoldenTornado said:
Look at the level of backfield talent:

QB -- Nesbitt, Shaw, Luallen
B-Back -- Dwyer, Watson, Drummond
A-Back -- Jones, Allen, Wright, Peeples
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Love your optimism, and I agree completely. Just wanted to point out that Anthony Allen is a Bee-Back.
 
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