Next Years offense

[gtfan09]

Guys we will be okay... yeah we got raped by LSU... but there will be better days. I still believe in CPJ's offense, but who here thinks we will need to be alot more balance on offense next year and for years to come? I think if we could get at least 150 yards in the passing game each game next year, teams WILL NOT know how to stop our offense. I also think we need to run some plays out of shotgun and not be under center all the time. Maybe somehow we can combine a Pro-Style offense with the Triple option offense... kind of like the days when Joe Hamilton and Godsey were here. I just think we will have to be VERY effective in the passing game nest year to keep the offense rolling, or sooner or later defenses will figure out how to stop our running plays. Its a new year... the LSU game was last year so lets just all forget it and get ready for a great 2009 season!!!


HAPPY NEW YEARS TO ALL

 

[cajunjacket]

I think we are fine even if we keep our offense the way it is with no more passing. The reason we lost last night is because everything that could have gone LSU's way went there way (chronologically: offsides call when the LSU guy false started on 3rd down, roughing the passer penalty, forward fumble that was somehow caught to put LSU up 14 to 3, onside kick that went right, fumbled punt after we stopped them again, ...). We played like dog crap out there as well.

But in the end, the most important thing that we need next year is solid offensive line play. Anyone who watched Nebraska in their hayday knows that you can run every single play and win every game as long as your offensive line can block correctly. That is what we are lacking and what we need to be ACC champs next year. I sure hope our O-line steps it up next season; because, if so, we will be scary to play.

 

[JacketDan]

A-backs and WR's didn't block well last night either. That's why some of the stretch plays looked so bad, because Cox, Wright, and\or Melton were lying on their stomachs looking behind them all night.

 

[gtfan09]

I see where you your coming from cajunjacket and you make a very good point... but I was just thinking that if wehad a effective passing game, it would take a little pressure off the running game. It sure wouldn't hurt. And yeah we need a offensive line as well too.

 

[JacketDan]

You can't have the passing game without an offensive line. A big reason Josh's timing was off was due to pressure.

 

[cajunjacket]

The passing game will come along once our offensive line improves. Most of my worries rest with the O-line.

 

[GTDad]

You can't have the passing game without an offensive line. A big reason Josh's timing was off was due to pressure.

+1

There were only a couple of plays in which he actually had time to throw - one of which was the 2nd play of the game. I don't care what anyone says, DT should have caught the ball. Period.

 

[nate]

A-backs and WR's didn't block well last night either. That's why some of the stretch plays looked so bad, because Cox, Wright, and\or Melton were lying on their stomachs looking behind them all night.

Gah, this was driving me crazy. It seemed on a couple of plays just 1 effective block would've allowed Roddy or JD to really break one.

 

[AlaGold]

If you think that this offense can't be stopped you didn't watch this game.Now you can't do ANYTHING with poor blocking which we normally have.BUT Nesbitt has GOT GOT GOT to pass better.That lsu QB just outplayed him BY FAR.Expect to see this next yr A LOT.Teams all but ignoring the pass and stacking the line CORRECTLY.This tape will be a hot item for our opponnets.

 

[ncjacket]

Well, AlaG, the opponent has to have the personnel to take advantage of what they saw. The problem last night was not stacking the line IMO it was that they didn't need to. The LSU DL stacked the line by themselves, so the LBs and Safeties could cheat to the side without worrying about the inside. I do agree that we need to pass better, and while he did face pressure, Josh had time to make better throws than he made last night. He simply has to hit open receivers or someone else may get a shot.

 

[1gtfan]

Nesbitt hit Thomas right on the numbers for a td pass in the 1st quarter that Bey Bey dropped.

 

[ncjacket]

Nesbitt hit Thomas right on the numbers for a td pass in the 1st quarter that Bey Bey dropped.

That's one. He also missed a number of wide open receivers over the course of the game. BTW, I assume you mean the long pass on the first possession that BeBe actually reached for over his head and the LSU DB knocked away? Because if you're talking about the slant, it was behind him.

 

[ramblinwise1]

That's one. He also missed a number of wide open receivers over the course of the game. BTW, I assume you mean the long pass on the first possession that BeBe actually reached for over his head and the LSU DB knocked away? Because if you're talking about the slant, it was behind him.

My recollection on that play is that Bebe let it get to his body instead of catching it with his hands, the ball popped up and the defender swatted it away then. I was in the next to the top row so it was hard to see even on the replay screen.

 

[GoldZ]

He did not drop the pass. Actually CPJ should have challenged it. It was imo a TD. He caught the ball in the end zone which is an instant TD, regardless of the swat away. Thomas wasn't attempting to catch it or in the process of catching it, he had both hands on the ball prior to the swat. By rule, that's a TD, just like when a RB reaches out over the goal line...the TD is the instant he breaks the plane.

 

[ncjacket]

You have to come down with the ball goldz

 

[ncjacket]

My recollection on that play is that Bebe let it get to his body instead of catching it with his hands, the ball popped up and the defender swatted it away then. I was in the next to the top row so it was hard to see even on the replay screen.

On the long pass BeBe reached up and caught it with his hands, and the LSU defended knocked it out before he could pull it in.

 

[GoldZ]

You don't have to pull it in. As for coming down with it, I thought his foot was down at the time of the swat...maybe not though.

 

[GTCrew]

You don't have to pull it in. As for coming down with it, I thought his foot was down at the time of the swat...maybe not though.

I believe that you are technically correct, but you don't see anyone get that call. If there is one shred of doubt about if it was a catch or not and the ball is on the ground it won't be called a TD (unless it is a SEC crew in a GT-UGA game (trying to make sure they don't get suspended)).

 

[GTCrew]

While we have like 16-18 returning 'starters', I expect that quite a few of them will not be first string for GT next year.

I feel confident that the OL will see some intense competition. Actually, few positions are secure. Both Morgans on D are the only starters I would bet the house on over there. And on O, Roddy is the only one I would bet the House on (Although Thomas and Dwyer would be shockers; with our 'inside' word on Allen's performance at B back, at the very least a position change to A-Back could happen and as much as I adore and respect Thomas it may be possible that better 'catchers' who can also block could emerge.) Nesbitt would also be a surprise but I wouldn't say it's impossible. Would you?

I will also note that with this O, we will be a super threat when we have TWO strings of players that are quality so that we can stay fresh.

 

[jacket67]

When reports came out about Tech working on the passing game before this game, I wondered why they would do that now instead of spring. In retrospect, I think CPJ knew that LSU's main vulnerability was their pass defense, and he needed to exploit that. Unfortunately, the passing game was really disappointing and that's probably what cost us the game. I think we will need more passing next year, because even if you can beat most teams on the ground alone, there will be teams like LSU this year that can contain our running game. You can't just pull the passing game out of a hat the week before these games.