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DAVIE, Fla. -- The rookie's arm has been moved higher overhead, his stride shortened and his shoulder closed some to smooth a first-summer flaw in the throwing motion.

"To keep the ball from sailing," Pat White says.

But that mind. No one is tinkering too much with that.

There's no need.


"I only needed one team to believe," White said.

You can go to distant history of his junior high and early high school years, too, when he competed against the coach's son at quarterback. He was the backup each season. He never gave up. His junior year he was named the starter.

"The coach came to our house then and said some things had been said and done through the years and wanted to apologize," said White's father, James. "I just said, 'Don't mistreat my child.' Which he never did."

But the quintessential Pat White story, the one that covers the whole file of quarterback questions and smart decisions came during his college recruitment. He initially chose Louisiana State. It was close to his home of Daphne, Ala. It was the team he followed as a kid. His mom was pushing it.

LSU recruited White as an, "athlete," and he knew what that meant. Quarterback wasn't promised. It probably wasn't even on the radar. But when West Virginia began recruiting White only as a quarterback and had a spread offense to custom-fit his skills, LSU changed its tune.

Its coach told White he could play quarterback.

"I didn't think they were being honest," White says.

Its coach also said the previous year's top quarterback recruit, JaMarcus Russell, might not have the brains to play quarterback. Like White, Russell was from the Mobile, Ala., area. He knew Russell.

"I thought, 'If they were going to say that about him to me, what were they going to say about me to a [recruit] a year from now?' " White says. "I just didn't trust what I was being told."

So White went to West Virginia, started four years, won four bowl games and set records as a passer and a runner.

But here's the kicker to that story: The LSU coach was Nick Saban, the guy who took lying to a new level a few years later as Dolphins coach.

So give White points for figuring in a few weeks what it took everyone in South Florida a few years to understand. But then White has always been a quick read, as well as hard of hearing to detractors.

"Everywhere he goes people have said he couldn't do this and couldn't do that," says James White. "Couldn't beat out his competition in high school. Wasn't a big-time college player. It's the same in the NFL. But I love it when people tell him what he can't do."

It required a bit of unconventional thinking to draft White in the second round at quarterback.

White isn't the NFL prototype: a 6-foot left-hander who played entirely from the shotgun formation in college. At the Senior Bowl in January, he had trouble handling snaps from center early in the practice week. But on game day, he was the Most Valuable Player.
 
Not to defend the SEC in any way shape or form, but I don't understand how this is dirty recruiting.

They wanted Pat White because the boy had talent. I'm not sure he couldn't have made it to the NFL at wide receiver, defensive back, or running back. At the start of White's recruiting they had the luxury of recruiting him as an athlete. He was a 3* athlete with an offer from a National Championship team.

This is a common decision some players have to make coming out of highschool. For Pat White it was easy...he wanted to play quarterback. For others - it may not be so easy. This just isn't dirty recruiting in my book.

Dirty recruiting for me is when a coach offers a scholarship and pulls it. Or my favorite (which has been cited by one SEC giant) is when a coach accepts a silent commit in the agreement that the player leads other schools on while they hold spots open for them.
 
Bad mouthing one of your own players in order to get a recruit is pretty jacked up. But this is the guy who's cutting kids left and right and justifying it.
 
To your point - I forgot about that. That is bull**** on his party.

My appologies, I was only thinking about recruiting him as an athlete.
 
Bad mouthing one of your own players in order to get a recruit is pretty jacked up. But this is the guy who's cutting kids left and right and justifying it.

Well, it worked for the Bear and is a major reason why Tech left the SEC.
 
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