Our new identity on offense:

beej67

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(from the other thread ...)

We're a spread option offense with a really fast quarterback who doesn't throw the ball well, so we spread the field to generate mismatches and space, and we run to that space. We use loaded formations and presnap motion to generate blocking numbers advantages on one side of the field, then we QB choice to that side of the field if they don't have the numbers, or QB draw if they do, and it's a QB presnap read. If they overload the side we've overloaded, we have the speed to turn reverses into big gains, and we use our second speedy runningback in the slot for this purpose.

The whole thing is built to minimize our deficiencies at OL, deficiencies that would assuredly cost us a game or two this year otherwise. And they still might, but at least this shotgun business helps.

The wide strongside pitch sets up the reverse. The motion sets up the QB Choice, which sometimes looks like a QB Draw to those without a trained eye. We ARE throwing to the TE, the RBs, and the FB. We ARE throwing over the middle, when Reggie sees it.

These are our problems:

OL penalties, and general poor OL play.
Our WRs have the dropsies.
Reggie is better at making reads, but still not great.

When's the last time Tech got 500 yards of total offense? Anybody know?
 
Accurate summary, and certainly one of the problems that this scheme is trying to overcome is the limitations on the OL, which are a real concern.

Football is still a game of blocking (offense) and tackling (defense). When you design an offensive scheme to overcome poor blocking, it will inherently have limitations.

Those limitations will raise their ugly heads again and again as the season progresses. I wish people would stop blaming the QB and 'play calling' for every offensive failure. I've heard the same complaints by fans lacking knowledge for the last 35 years. Show me a team that is struggling on offense, and I will show you a set of fans complaining about play calling and/or the QB. Everytime I hear or read such complaints, I label the fan making them as causal and unknowledgable.

I am hopeful that the OL will improve in a meaningful way, but I am starting to lose faith.
 
I am hopeful that the OL will improve in a meaningful way, but I am starting to lose faith.[/quote]

As hard as it is don't lose faith. As mad as I get at them and coach D I know they will eventually work things out. I would just like for it to be Thursday night before the meat of our schedule.
 
But sometimes the playcalling or QB exacerbates other problems. Every time I hear a fan with one answer to everything, I label them as casual and not knowledgeable.

I'm not saying that we don't have problems on the OL. But we have what we have. It's not up to the OC to do what we do well, instead of what our fans want to see us do. This is where he earns his money. When your QB and OL are top notch, it's pretty damn easy to be an OC.
 
beej67 said:
(from the other thread ...)

We're a spread option offense with a really fast quarterback who doesn't throw the ball well, so we spread the field to generate mismatches and space, and we run to that space. We use loaded formations and presnap motion to generate blocking numbers advantages on one side of the field, then we QB choice to that side of the field if they don't have the numbers, or QB draw if they do, and it's a QB presnap read. If they overload the side we've overloaded, we have the speed to turn reverses into big gains, and we use our second speedy runningback in the slot for this purpose.

The whole thing is built to minimize our deficiencies at OL, deficiencies that would assuredly cost us a game or two this year otherwise. And they still might, but at least this shotgun business helps.

The wide strongside pitch sets up the reverse. The motion sets up the QB Choice, which sometimes looks like a QB Draw to those without a trained eye. We ARE throwing to the TE, the RBs, and the FB. We ARE throwing over the middle, when Reggie sees it.

These are our problems:

OL penalties, and general poor OL play.
Our WRs have the dropsies.
Reggie is better at making reads, but still not great.

When's the last time Tech got 500 yards of total offense? Anybody know?

This is a bunch of horsesh*t. There is no minimizing deficiencies on the offensive line with a spread option offense. You don't generate blocking advantages with trips right or trips left, you do so with pulling guards, tackles, and even the center. Not to mention the fullback or tightend in motion across the line. Cox was a decoy about half the time he went into motion for about 3 yards using slide steps.

We run 3 reverses for big yardage because Troy didn't have the defensive end staying home and going upfield first instead of pursuing the play laterally across the line of scrimmage. The coaches spotted this and made the right call. To believe the scheme was responsible is ridiculous.

And quick hitting plays you mention in the other thread.....what are they? Our plays are slow in developing. Maybe next time I will take stopwatch with me to the game and time how fast it takes the offense to get the ball past the line of scrimmage.

Again to use what we did against Troy as a barometer is nuts. Troy was not an ACC or SEC school in terms of athletes and probably not in coaching. I guarantee you won't see 500 yards against piss-poor Virginia Thursday night. Or 400 yards for that matter.
 
jacketup is certainly right that football is a game of blocking and tackling; the Duke VaTech "game" proved that,. My VPI connections say they are very worried about us.
 
statelinejacket said:
I guarantee you won't see 500 yards against piss-poor Virginia Thursday night. Or 400 yards for that matter.

I will be happy with just a win now that we are in conference play, and I think we get it.
I don't know what our final record will be any more than you do, but it's safe to say that this team will probably look "ugly" offensively in a lot of those games. Our preseason is over. It's all about winning any way we can now.

And, who knows, just maybe Samford and the Trojans of Troy didn't see the entire package. I don't know why they would.
Personally, I feel better about this year than I have in a long time. 5 years anyway.
 
I guarantee you won't see 500 yards against piss-poor Virginia Thursday night. Or 400 yards for that matter.

Well we shall see. I don't think we make 500, but I bet we make 400, and bet we outgain them by 100 or more.

Look, this offense works for the players we've got. It's the first one that's worked in several years. Why shit all over it?
 
beej67 said:
When's the last time Tech got 500 yards of total offense? Anybody know?

514 yards vs. Syracuse in the Champs Sports bowl in '04.

We had 475 yards against UNC last year.

Last time we had 500 in a regular season game was '00 against Maryland, 547 yards. We did it 4 times that season, including 627 against Virginia.

627 yards would work for me on Thursday night.
 
statelinejacket said:
I guarantee you won't see 500 yards against piss-poor Virginia Thursday night. Or 400 yards for that matter.

How does this guarantee against 400 yards work? What happens if you are wrong?
 
beej67 said:
Well we shall see. I don't think we make 500, but I bet we make 400, and bet we outgain them by 100 or more.

The last bit seems like a good bet, UVa is really struggling on offense this year. In 3 games they've managed as many TDs as we scored in the 4th quarter Saturday (3), and they are #112 in the country in total offense. Plus they haven't even faced an above-average defense yet.

This is a good opportunity for a win against them, and we sure need one - we are 1-4 against Groh since he got there.
 
mm42 said:
627 yards would work for me on Thursday night.
That would be f*ckin' awesome if we could put up 600+ total offensive yards and 40+ points on UVA Thursday night.
 
UVa has beaten us three years in a row. We need revenge on 'em. Last win was a 23-15 victory on Oct. 26, 2002.

Incidently, that was the first GT game I ever got liquored up before hand. We were coming off two straight losses, one to lowly Wake Forest at Grant Field followed by a major spanking by Maryland up there.
 
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