Pete Carrol's decision on last series...

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Pete Carrol\'s decision on last series...

Is anyone else concerned about Carrol's decision to go for it on 4th or even his decision not to run it 3 straight times with 4:02 left and up by 5? I personally though he should had because:

1) It would force UT to burn at least 2 timeouts

2) The way Lendale was running USC could have gotten the first even with a stacked Texas box

3) If you had punted it would have forced UT to go 70 or 80 yds rather than them getting the ball at midfield, and it wast'n a situation were the field goal would beat you so UT would have needed to go the entire length of the field.

4) It would have forced UT to be one dimensional, with 1 or no timeouts they would have been forced to throw outside the numbers, hurry up to the line maybe even spike a few and all of that would have worked to USC's advantage.

So my question is: Did Pete Carrol "out-Carroled" himself? Or was his last drive playcalling the right thing to do?
 
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It is just like Rodriquez' decision against UGA. If it works..its brilliant...if it does not...you are an idiot.

Both calls were gutsy.
 
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with the way White was running, I would have made the same move Carroll did...Texas just somehow made that play to get the ball back.
 
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with the way White was running, I would have made the same move Carroll did...Texas just somehow made that play to get the ball back.

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No question about Lendale's running, I just would have given him 3 cracks at the first rather than one on 4th down.
 
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I thought about it after the game and, although given the outcome of the game it is probably a popular answer to say he should have punted, I think going for it on 4th down was not a bad decision.

If the first down is made, USC pretty much ices the game. I don't think it would have mattered if there was a punt and Texas had to go 80-85 yards, they would have probably scored anyway.

What I would question is the pass on 2nd down. IIRC, it was a screen pass that was dropped. That was very costly. Running three times would have probably been the better option.

I also do not understand burning the last timeout prior to the two-point conversion. But it was a fantastic game and I'm glad I was able to stay up and see it all, unlike the Oranage Bowl the night before (although ESPN U showed a replay during the Rose bowl last night.
 
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No problem with the decision to go for it but maybe question the decision to run up the middle. But then again I don't have the luxury of coaching a team with that Oline + Lindale White & Reggie Bush.
 
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Exactly. I was thinking that was also the case with Bush's attempted lateral at the end of that long run in the first quarter that resulted in a turnover. If it had worked, they'd still be talking about his great athletic ability and presence of mind; as it is, they called it for what it was: a bonehead play.
 
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Yep,

After seeing the replay the SC player running alongside Bush was "open" for a fraction before the UT defender got his arm up.
It was obviously an ill chosen sandlot play, but would have been the talk of the town if it had worked.
Just overconfidence, and without Young SC still would have rolled.
 
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These arguements get rediculous. The reason its either a bad call or a good call is whether it works or not, thats the way it works. Sometimes theres a more "right" call, like running on short yardage, or trying to play it safe and running at the end of the 4th when you have a lead, but there is no "correct" play. The rules aren't set, thats what makes inovation happen and the game fun, otherwise we'd still be playing glorified rugby (no forward pass) with robots running just a toss sweep or a dive.
 
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I didn't like the pass on 2nd down because of it stopping the clock. Had it been complete it's a moot point, but with the way White was running I probably would have given it to him 3 times. For that matter, I think the bigger question is why Bush didn't get the ball once on that series.

I didn't have a problem with the 4th down decision, nor did I have a problem with the call. But if Bush had been in the game in a 2 back set it would have forced the defense to adjust and given them a better chance IMO.
 
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I agree with you about play calls, ramblin, but PW and I were talking about Bush's ill-advised lateral that resulted in a turnover instead of a long gain. That was indeed just a sandlot play.
 
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completely agree on the lateral, that was just too much adrenaline clouding his judgement. That fancy paperweight got in his head for a minute /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugher.gif
 
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It's a good thing for Bush that the Heisman voting has already taken place. I don't think he would have won if they voted this morning /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif
 
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that lateral attempt was flat out arrogant imho
 
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