Playoff system starting to gain support?

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Seems the politicians think they can gain some political favor now by pushing for a playoff system. First Obama mentioned it and now this guy. Notice that he is from Texas. Hey, take the support where we can get it I suppose.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8922558?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002


Lawmaker proposing bill to end BCS system

WASHINGTON (AP) - Taking aim at a BCS system he said "consistently misfires," a member of Congress planned to introduce legislation Wednesday that would force college football to adopt a playoff to determine the national champion. ...
 
This is total bullcrap. There should not be laws governing whether the NCAA has a playoff or not. I can't even put into words how absurd this is.

I really want a playoff but will not support any piece of legislation regarding one.
 
Rodzilla said:
This is total bullcrap. There should not be laws governing whether the NCAA has a playoff or not. I can't even put into words how absurd this is.

I really want a playoff but will not support any piece of legislation regarding one.
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I couldn't agree more.
 
I agree also, a law would be ridiculous. By support, I mean the more high profile people like this that call for a playoff the better. It puts more pressure on the NCAA and the university presidents I would think.
 
ESPN is starting to lobby for a playoff, even more than normal. I personally think that's why they bought the BCS rights, so that they can push the idea big time.
 
Well, let's be honest. The way government works now is to withhold federal funds from any state or entity that doesn't comply with federal wishes. We are very close to socialism, NOT because the masses want that, but because political correctness advocates have figured out how to manipulate federal funds however they want.

Although the federal government has zero ability to force a playoff, they do have plenty of ability to withhold federal research/funding at the University of Texas, for example. UT's president will certainly vote for a playoff one day due to the real federal governments' way of doing business.

The fact that in this difficult period that we are living in, that the president elect (or this congressman) is wasting his time even giving his opinion on the matter, suggests that he will be a very active "federal funding" president. That is, after he gets his guy in for his Senate seat in Illinois first.
 
"will prohibit the marketing, promotion, and advertising of a postseason game as a 'national championship' football game, unless it is the result of a playoff system. Violations of the prohibition will be treated as violations of the Federal Trade Commission Act as an unfair or deceptive act or practice."
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I guess we really are all socialists now. Or facists who say what games ESPN can market and which games they can't.
 
as for playoffs... Since PJ wants it, so do I.

But in this case... I wish our government would stick to things that we pay them for.
 
Yellow Fever said:
as for playoffs... Since PJ wants it, so do I.

But in this case... I wish our government would stick to things that we pay them for.
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Man, the more time they spend talking about this the less time they can spend messing other stuff up.
 
mmbt0ne said:
So you don't agree that it's completely subjective to label OU/UF the national championship?
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Sure I do. I also think I should have the right to call the Pike/ATO flag football intramural game a national championship if I really felt like it. Anytime you legislate what people can or can't say, it's a dangerous path to go down.
 
I'm not sure what I think. On the one hand, there is definitely something heavy handed and weird about the federal government getting into college athletics in this way. On the other hand, what will it take to get some movement? I'm 56 and I'm afraid I won't live long enough to see a playoff system happen unless something drastic pushes the process.

I don't see much difference at all in the one loss teams. This year illustrates perfectly the need for a play off.
 
The only real issue here is money. D1 college football has existed for over 100 years without an official national champion so why is it so important now? And if the question is money, unless someone can make a definitive case that there will be more available under a playoff system, the whole conversation is moot.

Personally i don't care. If a playoff system other than a plus 1 is insitituted it will mean the elimination of most bowl games so fewer teams will have a post season. The logistics of any playoff will require home teams to host for some rounds so that you actually have fans in the stands. You might be able to use the traditional "big" bowls for the semis and finals. I'd be just as happy going back to pre BCS days and letting bowls make their deals with teams/conferences and having the MNC totally decided by the polls. It really wouldn't be any less official than it is now.

One last point though. If the mid level teams think they're getting screwed out of money now, just watch if this goes back to the old system. No one wants to see them play except people who went there. In a playoff situation they collectively might not get any spots or very few, so they should be careful what they wish for.
 
floridajacket said:
Sure I do. I also think I should have the right to call the Pike/ATO flag football intramural game a national championship if I really felt like it. Anytime you legislate what people can or can't say, it's a dangerous path to go down.
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Well the whole point is obviously so that I can't sell a pill and say that it "100% cures cancer" but anything that gets this stupid bowl system out of the way is fine with me.

Also, here's hoping that the UN passes a resolution that MLB can't call it the World Series without including teams from other leagues. That would be awesome.
 
Ish said:
ESPN is starting to lobby for a playoff, even more than normal. I personally think that's why they bought the BCS rights, so that they can push the idea big time.
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I never though of that. I sure hope it's true. It would make a lot of sense as well. PLAYOFFS! PLAYOFFS!
 
mmbt0ne said:
Well the whole point is obviously so that I can't sell a pill and say that it "100% cures cancer" but anything that gets this stupid bowl system out of the way is fine with me.

Also, here's hoping that the UN passes a resolution that MLB can't call it the World Series without including teams from other leagues. That would be awesome.[/quote]
And someone would care, why?
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Yellow Fever said:
as for playoffs... Since PJ wants it, so do I.

But in this case... I wish our government would stick to things that we pay them for.
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Our team would be deadly in a playoff. Who would want to play "that darn wishbone" on one week's notice?
 
I did want a playoff system, but now Ive come over to the darkside and actually prefer the BCS or even pre-BCS days. A playoff would kill the the regular season (see NCAA basketball) a 2-3 week long playoff would be more exciting than the current bowl system, but total interest/excitement would be less than the 4 month long drama that is the regular season. Even in the NFL, does anyone really care that the Cleveland Browns destroyed the NY Giants, one of the best teams, on MNF, no but everyone certainly cares that USC lost to Oregan State. And another item that I never see mentioned is that all the non-conference rivalries, especially those played at the end of the season like ours, would lose virtually all their luster, basically after the first time we lose to UGA but still make the playoffs , that generation of fans on will keep caring less and less about that game until after enough meaningless games the game may even get taken off the schedule all together.
 
ncjacket said:
The only real issue here is money. D1 college football has existed for over 100 years without an official national champion so why is it so important now? And if the question is money, unless someone can make a definitive case that there will be more available under a playoff system, the whole conversation is moot.
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It's absolutely about money. While I don't agree with the government forcing a playoff, I can see where they are coming from. Government DOES step in when people fix games under the guise of honest competition, and how different is that from putting on a biased selection process under the guise of an unbiased one? The money at stake is absolutely HUGE, and it's not hard to look at the last coaches' poll and see how people might be fixing the event(articles about it on any major sporting site).

Everyone likes to say how college sports is a business nowadays...well, that's right, and it's the government's job to make sure the businesses are playing by the rules and not doing something like committing fraud(ulent ways of appropriating wealth via championships) or deceiving customers(the paying audience). Again, I don't agree with them stepping in and forcing a playoff, but I also don't think it's quite as far-fetched an idea as some seem to believe.
 
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