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Is our team poorly conditioned? I cannot believe that all of these injuries are coincidental. I would swear that we have had more this year than we did in GOL's entire tenure.
OfficiallyBuzz
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I have wondered the same thing. It truly may be bad luck with injuries but one has to wonder about the conditioning.
No offense, but there is absolutely no correlation between the injuries we have suffered and conditioning. Some are lingering injuries, such as Hester's which he first suffered in the spring, but many are just the kind of thing that happens in a sport like football. We are unfortunately just stuck in a bad streak right now.
In fact, many players were quoted before the season that the conditioning program was tougher than before. What I think may be happening in some cases is not that we aren't in game condition but that we are simply small, especially on defense. At some point conditioning cannot overcome that.
In fact, many players were quoted before the season that the conditioning program was tougher than before. What I think may be happening in some cases is not that we aren't in game condition but that we are simply small, especially on defense. At some point conditioning cannot overcome that.
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I too recall that the players said the conditioning this summer/fall was tougher than they had.
Bear Bryant was famous for winning with smaller,superbly conditioned, quicker athletes;maybe todays larger, fast, well-conditioned jocks have outpaced the era of the smaller, faster, meaner jock?
Btw, is Eddie Lee Ivery still on the payroll as our asst strength coach;should we be using him as a coach for running backs/receivers?
Btw, is Eddie Lee Ivery still on the payroll as our asst strength coach;should we be using him as a coach for running backs/receivers?
There is conditioning and then there is conditioning.
Those of you playing both football and basketball know you have more muscle mass for football and less for basketball. Weightlifting is different between the two. The muscles required in basketball tend to be longer, smoother, and not as massive.
It affects your play in basketball after having played the football season, and it takes a little time to get the muscles smoothed out. There is more running up and down the court in basketball, and over the season, the muscles adapt to the smoothness of basktetball and lose some of their mass.
If you have observed runners, those that run every day and enter the marathon races, you will note they have little muscle mass. I hate to say it this way, but some marathon runners tend to look a little effeminate due to the excessive running. A lot of running tends to reduce muscle mass.
If a team reduces its weight lifting and increases its running exercises, the players will lose some muscle needed for the rigors of football. Windsprints were always good, because they were short burst of speed increasing quickness. Windsprints did not last that long, and tended not to reduce muscle loss. Steady running will reduce muscle loss.
I don't know the extent of the players running to keep in shape, but too much of it could be detrimental to their strength.
Weight training is good for football players to increase their strength. Being in shape is good, but can be over-rated. The reason for having substitutes and playing a lot of players is to keep the players fresh.
Lifting weights should be adapted to the athlete. A linemen should lift weights differently from a receiver or player requiring quickness. It is well known a muscle bound athlete loses some of his quickness. It is possible our conditioning program is not meeting the needs of the various positions of the athletes on the team.
Those of you playing both football and basketball know you have more muscle mass for football and less for basketball. Weightlifting is different between the two. The muscles required in basketball tend to be longer, smoother, and not as massive.
It affects your play in basketball after having played the football season, and it takes a little time to get the muscles smoothed out. There is more running up and down the court in basketball, and over the season, the muscles adapt to the smoothness of basktetball and lose some of their mass.
If you have observed runners, those that run every day and enter the marathon races, you will note they have little muscle mass. I hate to say it this way, but some marathon runners tend to look a little effeminate due to the excessive running. A lot of running tends to reduce muscle mass.
If a team reduces its weight lifting and increases its running exercises, the players will lose some muscle needed for the rigors of football. Windsprints were always good, because they were short burst of speed increasing quickness. Windsprints did not last that long, and tended not to reduce muscle loss. Steady running will reduce muscle loss.
I don't know the extent of the players running to keep in shape, but too much of it could be detrimental to their strength.
Weight training is good for football players to increase their strength. Being in shape is good, but can be over-rated. The reason for having substitutes and playing a lot of players is to keep the players fresh.
Lifting weights should be adapted to the athlete. A linemen should lift weights differently from a receiver or player requiring quickness. It is well known a muscle bound athlete loses some of his quickness. It is possible our conditioning program is not meeting the needs of the various positions of the athletes on the team.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I was in 8th grade at Druid Hills his 1st or 2nd year at Bama. He recruited our QB (Pat Drennon may have been his name) probably 6'0, 170, and made him into an OG. That quit working a few years into the '60s, when everybody started going for size, including Bear.Originally posted by goldeagle:
Bear Bryant was famous for winning with smaller,superbly conditioned, quicker athletes;maybe todays larger, fast, well-conditioned jocks have outpaced the era of the smaller, faster, meaner jock?
I was looking for some info on our strength and conditioning program and can't find anything on the GTAA web site. One thing I did notice is that there is no one on the football staff, which I take to mean that position is for all sports.
I agree completely with what ahsoisee had to say, but also believe that our strength staff knows better than we do what the appropriate work athletes should be doing for their specialy, whether they are football, basketball or track athletes. Sounds to me like just another item people are trying to pin on CG.
My belief is that any problems we are having holding up during games is our lack of size on defense. Our D linemen just can't stand up to 300# OLs nor can our LBs.
I agree completely with what ahsoisee had to say, but also believe that our strength staff knows better than we do what the appropriate work athletes should be doing for their specialy, whether they are football, basketball or track athletes. Sounds to me like just another item people are trying to pin on CG.
My belief is that any problems we are having holding up during games is our lack of size on defense. Our D linemen just can't stand up to 300# OLs nor can our LBs.
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I heard from the father of a recruit that chose Texas over Tech several years ago that Tech's weight room is the best in the nation in quality and programming. Texas had the largest at the time. The son liked Tech better but he chose Texas because Austin was a much smaller town than Atlanta.
