Question for next year

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I know we all would have preferred to win today, but my question is does the 38-35 loss give us more hope for next year than a 6-3 win would have?

I think the way we lost gives us hope that the Gailey/Nix system can work. It also shows that we may have usable qb who knows the system. I'm not totally sold on Bennett, but he showed promise and wouldn't be the end of the world. We'll see if Threet can unseat him in the spring.

I'm giving Tenuta a free pass, since more often than not, the D has played well. Not having Scott hurt and I'm not sure if Lewis was on his game with all that has gone on. If we keep Tenuta, the D will be fine next year.
 
I agree. The type of offensive system we have, we don;'t really need a QB who runs i.e. Ball. We have our runner in the backfield (Choice) but we need a QB, mobile or less so, who can deliver the ball over the top and hit guys over the middle. Yesterday was the first time we had that.

No offense, but did Reggie Ball ever have a game in his 49 starts where he completed 2/3 of his passes?
 
I know we all would have preferred to win today, but my question is does the 38-35 loss give us more hope for next year than a 6-3 win would have?

No. It just reinforces the belief that no matter what we aren't getting over that hump. It's not the offense or the defense. It's the attitude and the leadership.
 
It does give me hope, but I REALLY REALLY hope we work on more of a short to medium passing game. Other than that I'm comfortable about a TB driven offense.

On defense I hope we work on a less aggresive set for our defense. At time in the year, teams were able to use our aggresiveness against us, much like WVU did. I did a simplier, 4-3 defense where everyone stays in their lanes would work in such situations. We need to get bigger and stronger on DL so we don't always have to depend on defensive speed, because against fast offenses, like Clemson and WVU, we need a different attack.
 
I have to agree ODW, the defense needs to learn a less aggressive style for certain teams. Let White beat you throwing the ball but to overplay and not stay in your lanes time after time seemed a bit sophomoric to me.

Regarding the original post, I will say that the team needed to see a prolific offense in order to be motivated for the offseason. The defense in particular needed to see it. I think that was possibly more important than winning the game for next year. The fan base also needed to see it too by the way.
 
No doubt TB opens up possibilties on Off next yr that were questionable until yesterday.(Although if folks think the passing will go like that without CJ,they are dreaming)
Unfortunately it also exposes a DEf that loses 3 of top 4 players with only #41 returning(Anoia,Scott,Kmike gone) and have same bad KO/R teams maybe.
Overall,got to think the future looks better.
 
midatlantech said:
Regarding the original post, I will say that the team needed to see a prolific offense in order to be motivated for the offseason. The defense in particular needed to see it. I think that was possibly more important than winning the game for next year. The fan base also needed to see it too by the way.

yep, totally agree. I hope the team realizes how close they are to being a very good team and it drives them this offseason. If we work hard in the offseason, improve on some things, no reason we shouldn't be atleast a top 15 team next year.
 
Very interesting. I hope the QB race will be open. I think we have some excellent freshman and two guys on the bench, Garner and Booker, who should get a long look. Do not forget that W VA completely shut us down in the second half and that their pass defense was one of the worst in the country. TB did surprise me with his poise but he had time all day. How well would he do against a blitz package from say Miami or UGA with their speed on the corners? He did a good job today just as Rampley did in his bowl game, it does not automatically make him the best choice for starter.
 
GT1992 said:
I know we all would have preferred to win today, but my question is does the 38-35 loss give us more hope for next year than a 6-3 win would have?
I definitely have hope for next year beyond the usual generic “we‘ll get them next year“ rhetoric. 4 Main reasons why:

1) Offense: Our main question mark in the Gailey era has been offense and specifically the QB position. Next year we will have a starting QB in TB who’s been in the system 3 years and showed yesterday that he can make most of the throws if not all the throws. I’m not giving him the nod just yet, but his experience coupled with yesterday’s performance gives me every reason to think he’ll start unless he has a total meltdown in spring and fall practice. If you look at the other skill position players we will have JJ back with either Greg Smith or Demarious Thomas. The line will only lose Wrotto and have a capable replacement in A.J. Smith and a more than heralded recruit competing for the job in Nick Claytor, and we will get a chance to see Colin Peek in action at TE. With all this at his disposal I expect Nix to fully open the playbook next year with crossing routes and underneath reads not seen since Godsey’s senior year, specially with TC running like he can, expect him to be first team all ACC and have roughly 1500 yards. So there the potential is limitless, and there’s always the unlikely possibility of CJ coming back.

2) Defense: This unit will be just as good if not better since we only lose 3 starters (Scott, Anoai and Hall) and with Tenuta’s schemes and ability to replace them as we had seen in prior years there is no doubt we will not miss a beat, heck if Darryl Richard plays up to his potential and Michael Johnson get becomes a starter (he has all that tools) we might not even have to blitz that much at all.

3) Recruits: We will have the best recruiting class ever to come to the flats. Claytor, Dwyer, Everson, Nesbitt, Threet, Jones and Donley among others represent a major upgrade in talent compared to the kids we used to get so there is not limit to how much we can get out of them if they stay eligible and avoid injury. We will probably see only a handful of them play in limited roles next year but the future look brighter than it ever has on this front.

4) The ACC: where is the challenge going to come from? Let’s look at our division, Miami and UNC have high coaching turnover, not to mention unstable QB situations and a new offense, in the Case of Miami the third in 3 years. Duke is Duke, Uva will come into year two of the Jameel Sewel experiment and it still recuperating from losing all those kids they signed that couldn‘t get it lat year, VPI is the only theoretically serious challenge there.

The other division: NCSU and BC will have new coaches FSU a new offense (hope they keep the jumpball for the nostalgics), Clemson finds a way to underachieve every year under Tommy Bowden and must find a QB that can throw it, Maryland must also find a QB, and we will see if Josh Portis overcomes his Urban Meyer heartbreak to succeed in Fridge’s system (he has all the tools), Wake is the only challenge I see.

So things look better for us in 07 not just given our personnel and situation but everyone else’s as well.
 
GTYJ12, I only see quarterback as the big question mark for offense next year, but I think I saw things at QB that certainly gives us home for the future. I think Gardner will move to right tackle if a freshman is the next best option at tackle. Gardner is a technique guy and I think it'd be easier for him to move then a young guy.

Our defensive secondary should be better next year, if Lewis is moved back to CB. We have Gaston and Jones back at safety and lots of good safety recruits to back them up. Play Marius or the best option at the other CB slot and I think we are solid.

Losing Hall was big, but we have lots of linebacker options for next year. The big loss will be Joe A, I think. But I also think that Richard will be better one more year removed from major knee surgery. And a couple of guys will have put some more pounds on by next season too.

We're getting hammered on special teams because we don't have enough bodies right now. Next year, I bet all of the recruits that are physically ready will play a lot on special teams, maybe including Jones and Dwyer too. And a few of our walkons could use the extra year in the weight room.

Lastly, like you mentioned, the ACC may be down for another year and we are poised to take advantage of that. I'd like to see us play UGA the first game and then focus on the ACC next year (play ND anytime).
 
GTYellowJacket12 said:
The other division: NCSU and BC will have new coaches FSU a new offense (hope they keep the jumpball for the nostalgics), Clemson finds a way to underachieve every year under Tommy Bowden and must find a QB that can throw it, Maryland must also find a QB, and we will see if Josh Portis overcomes his Urban Meyer heartbreak to succeed in Fridge’s system (he has all the tools), Wake is the only challenge I see.
I believe Wake is something like 80% Seniors. I wouldn't expect them to repeat.
 
juveduke said:
I believe Wake is something like 80% Seniors. I wouldn't expect them to repeat.
I think they can't be taken lighly since they will have Riley Skinner and Micah Andrews, the talented but injured rb back. But you are right they are such a one hit wonder. At least I have a response if I'm ever asked: "Can you believe Northwestern went to the Rose Bowl in 96, have you seen anything like that?"
 
Why would you want to play Ugay the first game? That would only put a damper on the rest of the season and a few more weeks to put up with the dog's trash talk.If you were to say "well what if we won" get serious. We still have Gailey.
 
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