Question for RB apologist JOJATK

thwg

thwg

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I had dialogue with RR today which was good. Assume you can do what you want which is fine. RR seemed fine with our exchange and I thought it went well but your pride ovbiously rivals Reggie's so you get to do what you want it seems.

Two things in list of importance. When you ban someone, do you quit charging their CC $9.95 a month? If not, is that not stealing? I'd recommend not banning paying customers anymore unless you have taken necessary steps to quit charging them to view something you won't let them view.

Secondly, since I can't read your apologist BS on the Hive, tell us about how great Reggie is here. After all, you're proud to be a RB apologit.

And please don't charge my cc again!
 
thwg said:
When you ban someone, do you quit charging their CC $9.95 a month?
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So is it that the rule against trashing our players doesn't apply to you or do you think your paltry ten bucks entitles you to take a cheap shot or two?

Everyone knows the Hive mod policy - either follow it or quit posting over there but don't flagrantly violate it then come over here whining about it when one of the more reasonable mods kicks you out.

And enforcing the longest standing rule on the Hive does not make someone an apologist. I saw your post before it got yanked - you should consider yourself lucky you got off with a ten dollar fine and a kick in the arse.
 
What was the post, inquiring minds want to know.

THWG, you can call the credit card company and stop those payments by the way.
 
thwg said:
I had dialogue with RR today which was good. Assume you can do what you want which is fine. RR seemed fine with our exchange and I thought it went well but your pride ovbiously rivals Reggie's so you get to do what you want it seems.

Two things in list of importance. When you ban someone, do you quit charging their CC $9.95 a month? If not, is that not stealing? I'd recommend not banning paying customers anymore unless you have taken necessary steps to quit charging them to view something you won't let them view.

Secondly, since I can't read your apologist BS on the Hive, tell us about how great Reggie is here. After all, you're proud to be a RB apologit.

And please don't charge my cc again!
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First off, they keep charging your credit card. I can tell you that from experience. And no the mods don't care either, you have to work it out with Scout over the phone just like I had to. They want to operate their board like its a privilege to post and you have to follow certain rules, then they charge the public who is willing to pay for benefits and run advertisements. Its misleading. RR wants to keep the board operating the way it was when it was started in 96, but then he finally got to the point where he wanted to reap the benefits of profit. It can be misleading.

Second, this particular S-A has major character issues and people wanting to defend that solely because he's in a GT uniform are hypocrits. If he played for any other school, they'd insult him all day long while they treasured their "Tech" athletes despite any short comings. I don't know what in particular you said, but bottom line is this..

If you want to post on the hive you have to follow their rules whether you like it or not. Do I think they are bullsh*t? Yes, but my opinion doesn't matter. Do I think the mods hold a double standard? Absolutely. They'll let people attack other fans all day long as long as those attackers show undying support of all things Tech. But if someone criticizes Tech in anyway from its coaches or players, then they do not have the same freedom to respond to the attackers in the same way. Its the way the board self moderates itself.

Personally I think the mods should be a little more tolerant of people bashing Reggie, because quite frankly, Reggie is a man and his own actions and comments brought this on himself. If Reggie shut up and played the game week in and week out, you wouldn't see people this upset with him. Reggie's own character is why people are pissed off. Besides its the UGA game and people are upset anyway.

That said, of all the mods, JOJATK is easily the most reasonable on that board that I've dealt with. I think RR is pretty reasonable but he certainly had no like for me. He always thought I was the one who started insulting other fans, and 80% of the time, I was the one being attacked and my defense was what got me booted. 6 times... I wear it like a badge of honor.
 
thwg said:
I had dialogue with RR today which was good. Assume you can do what you want which is fine. RR seemed fine with our exchange and I thought it went well but your pride ovbiously rivals Reggie's so you get to do what you want it seems.

Two things in list of importance. When you ban someone, do you quit charging their CC $9.95 a month? If not, is that not stealing? I'd recommend not banning paying customers anymore unless you have taken necessary steps to quit charging them to view something you won't let them view.

Secondly, since I can't read your apologist BS on the Hive, tell us about how great Reggie is here. After all, you're proud to be a RB apologit.

And please don't charge my cc again!
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You can dispute the charge on your cc, sometimes online. I have never lost a dispute and I have always gotten my money back, but how easy is dependent on your bank/credit card company. Amex is wonderful at defending the card holders.
 
The post was way out of line and he KNOWS it.
The hive has it rules follow them or don't post there.
I see plenty of critisim on that board but there's a line, cross it and you go.
IMO THWG put it up knowing he would get booted.
 
What was said exactly that made it so horrible and "over the line". I can agree there is much that crosses the line FOR THE HIVE. But if Reggie character is being called into question, to me that is not over the line given his many actions and comments.
 
But BOR, to your point, you know that on the Hive you can't go after a SAs character. You can say things like, "I wish he didn't run his mouth so much", but that's about it. You can criticize their play as long as you're keeping it above the "he sucks" kind of comment. I don't know what thwg typed, but I haven't noticed any lack or criticism of Reggie since Saturday. He must have really gone overboard.
 
00Burdell said:
So is it that the rule against trashing our players doesn't apply to you or do you think your paltry ten bucks entitles you to take a cheap shot or two?

Everyone knows the Hive mod policy - either follow it or quit posting over there but don't flagrantly violate it then come over here whining about it when one of the more reasonable mods kicks you out.

And enforcing the longest standing rule on the Hive does not make someone an apologist. I saw your post before it got yanked - you should consider yourself lucky you got off with a ten dollar fine and a kick in the arse.
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First, I never said I didn't deserve to get banned.

The context of my post is quit charging my card. If you charge people to viewe information thewn don't let them view it, that is theivery and certianly not a fine.

Secondly, JOJATK stated uneqivocally he is a RB apologist but there is no way for me to question him on the Hive as I was banned so I did it here.

I'm fine being banned; I actually am glad to be banned. I despised the place but was an adict so now I can get help;) I will note RR and I exxchanged emails twice yesterday and he seemed fine. I did not post again after our exchange so the other mods decided to do something more than he thought was necesary evidently.

I would still like to see why logical folks like JOJATK have exasperated the frustration and namecalling by not only supporting RB but presneting him as something he is not. Unrealistic and exuberant optimism on a message board, on a team, in the workforce, or in the stock market does not help those who see the picure much more realistically.

So, my post is written for two reasons. Don't charge my credit card. And since I can't ask JOJATK a question on the Hive and since he hasn't given out any game balls for the 1st -team ACC QB he is an apologist for, I was hoping after he quits charging my CC, he'll post more of his Reggie love here with logical reasons why RB is so great.
 
midatlantech said:
What was the post, inquiring minds want to know.

THWG, you can call the credit card company and stop those payments by the way.
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I think it was a series of very inflammatory posts on Saturday night. I'm not sure it was one per se. More than calling Regiie names, I was calling posters names who had previously hailed RB as the best QB to ever play at GT. I was beyond frustrated and beyond sober.

I took sunday off to recoup and repent.

Monday I think I had two posts and I might have called his play pathetic but I hardly see that as bashing; I thought I was being complimentary.:laugher:

JOJATK and I got into it a few weeks ago when I questioned why after a hard-fought GT win where so many players played so great he thought giving RB a the game ball was worthwhile. Basically, we had won a game, like many this year, in spite of RB and it seemed not only foolish but rather incendiary to give rB so much credit when he had tried to give the game away but TC, the defsense and ST had won it for us.

JOJATK empowers many other obviously insecure and incredibly introverted nerds who know no other college football fans to get on there week after week and massage the Balls regardless of how bad he played. I mean the guy should be the CEO of Home Depot the way they build up his leadership skills even though every neutral observor I know thinks RB is a selfish, immature, jerk (including some current GT students who despise him).

So, rather than leaving RB alone and letting him finish his career, JOJATK says he is proud to be a RB apologist. If folks would admit RB is what he is, then most would not mind the love. but when they build him up to be a Sid Thrift when he is fact one of the worst 4 year starting QBs to ever play the game, the powder keg is likely to ignite...and that performance Saturday afternoon in Athens coupled with a lot of Woodford Reserve was the dynamite The Hive needed.

But, no there was no one comment toward Reggie that was any more harsh than what I have just said. I do think in repsonse to someone I said, "Ball sucks the Hive's Balls," which I thought was an accuaate play on words and the only explanation for the apologists like JOJATK. RB must be making them feel good in a way he has never made me feel and I thought maybe a few of the Hive Five had been licked by Reggie. Again that was Saturday night and the mods would have had to go back 10-15 pages or more to find that quote. But, I tend to think it's quite an accurate quote. He has done something for guys like JOJATK that only my wife has doen for me because that's the only way they could see what they see in him.
 
THWG, you bash our student-athletes on the board pure and simple. You're not some poor innocent bystander.

As for being an RB apologist I thought that in a particular game when he didn't play great that he, among others, deserved a game ball for the good things he did do. You took that to mean two things:

1) I didn't think others did because I didn't explicitly call out every person who I thought deserved a game ball

2) I think Reggie is great and has no faults

Neither of those things are true.

So in summary, I don't think Reggie is perfect. There are plenty of times when I think he should be pulled out of a game to let Taylor Bennett play and I'm not any happier than you are about that not happening. You were banned because of the way in which you expressed your displeasure with Reggie. You bashed him and that is explicitly against the rules. You left me no choice. I didn't want to ban you and quite honestly I was going to reinstate you after a day or two.

I have nothing against you personally despite this very personal attack. I have a task to accomplish and that is to moderate according to the rules of the board. I do very little interpretation except to say what is bashing and what is not. When people use derogatory names such as "jerk" or "pathetic" or demean the kid's character that's pretty clearly stepping over the line. Note that by enforcing those rules it doesn't mean I don't agree sometimes with the assessment, just in many cases the WAY in which it is expressed.

Dude, I know that you're pretty pissed off about Reggie and the UGA game, as am I. I understand and don't blame you for being upset that I banned you. You blatantly broke the rules on bashing a student-athlete and left me no choice. Check back soon and your posting privileges may have returned (it sometimes takes a while for the banning/unbanning to take affect).
 
JOJATK, I don't think Reggie Ball is at all above the heat he is taking. Anyone who wants to ignore and deny that he has character issues that come out on the field of play and has been disrespectful to the fanbase need to wake the hell up. Reggie brought this on himself.

I have not met Reggie personally, but I know a slew of players, fans, ex-coaching staff, GTAA members, and students who have had interaction with Reggie and not one thing I've ever heard has been flattering about Reggie. And some of these comments come from GT's most heralded and respected players.

If Reggie was in someone elses uniform, he be called a whiny, unsportsmanlike, trash talking thug, and NO ONE on the Hive or this board would have a problem with that. The people who are so upset what is being said about Reggie are the same ones who have slammed repeatedly other schools athletes for showing the same character attributes as our QB.
 
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