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[toe meets leather]

on the hive that i find interesting, if you support retaining chan gailey are you excited about next fall and buying season tickets, with the likes of ga, fsu, md, ncst,clem,brigham young,uva,wake forest, where are the wins coming from. most of the hive appears satisfied with losing.ps. left of auburn.

 

[GTCrew]

Danny, your post sounds like that of a young man.

By the end of 2001 I was depressed at the thought of O'L without Fridge as I had seen mediocrity that year. But I would have bought season tickets anyway.

We are (were) a QB away from being a very good team. I know it is wishful thinking but if Pena (or one of the others) comes anywhere near Rivers' freshman stats in 2003 we will be fine. If not we will be Tire Bowl bound at best.

The QB is critical. If Chan hasn't found one by 2004 we need to re-evaluate.

 

[toe meets leather]

i am 57 years young but, i dont accept mediocrity very well, i guess it is because i know that the proper coach can win at tech and chan gailey is not that coach.

 

[GoldZ]

danny, I don't find The Hive to be satisfied with losing at all. However, I do sense an expectation level that matches our long term 6-7 win level and a feeling that we should not make any academic changes whatsoever(academic snobbery). History will certainly repeat itself if we just maintain status quo.

There's a great deal of hypocrisy when it comes to the holier than thou position on academics. Few stop to think that our most treasured athletic memories and our great tradition itself was built on the skills of athletes whose academic prowess was no different than most of the competition that we so love to belittle. It's OK though, as long as the competition has a much larger number of these wonderfully skilled young men than we do....geesh!

What's important about GT academic integrity is to maintain the very essence of the value of the degree, which is to have a VERY difficult challenge and to demonstrate that u have learned Ma Tech's lesson of survival. This is why companies like mine and others come to recruit GT grads...NOT the calculus/thermo/esm course content. If you think being a D-1 athlete and passing whatever reasonable(non ugag type crap)major, doesn't qualify as meeting the Tech standard of difficulty then u have never walked a mile in a player's shoes. The people who believe that if 85 kids out of 12,000 don't have 1400 SAT's and take EE courses, that the value of their own degree will be tarnished are paranoid. THWG

 

[casbah62]

Rivers Freshman season at NCSt was definately a surprise until one looks at who the OC was that year... Norm Chow... see Carson Palmer, Steve Young, Ty Detmer, etc.
Unless Gailey hires someone of Norm Chow capabilities a freshman QB being hugely successful next season is not realistic... no matter how good a young man is it is very difficult to succeed in year one...
I support keeping coach Gailey and allow him the benefit of the doubt which is what this season has been reduced to....
BUT.... if this same pain is in my stomach late next season I will not support his return for a third ...
and yes I will continue to buy the seasons ticket package and give to GTAA et al... but as a 'stock holder' in the organization I reserve my right to express my opinions...

 

[bellyseries]

Originally posted by GoldZ:
The people who believe that if 85 kids out of 12,000 don't have 1400 SAT's and take EE courses, that the value of their own degree will be tarnished are paranoid. THWG

<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Well, what are they supposed to take? And why would a kid whose real goal is to play football choose a school that tells him up front, "Academically, we're a helluva lot tougher than FSU"?

The kids we get have to be kids who have at least one eye on academics. There is no way we can recruit like Auburn.

That doesn't mean we can't play football with Auburn, but it's a lot tougher for us than it is for UGAG. And 10 game winners are going to be a lot rarer.

So if you're saying, let's create a school of Keyboarding and put all the athletes in it, it's only 85 out of 12000, after all.... Well, that might get us more 10 win seasons, but something tells me it won't fly.

 

[GoldZ]

belly, if u read my post then u know good and damned well I did not say that. I'm for a moderate expansion of the curricula that is good for both the academic and athletic interests of The Institute. Notice the "non ugag crap" statement!? Now, why don't u address my "hypocisy" point. Yeah, not so comfy to do so is it? THWG

 

[GoldZ]

belly, the golden era wasn't my point at all. I'm talking about our relatively modern era heroes, without whom our athletic heritage would read much differently. The list of our most gifted athletes who were very much on an equal academic level to many of the opposition's players is a long one. The hypocrisy is our embracing these wonderfully skilled ballplayers as TECH men while at the same time closing our doors to many players just like them. It's seemingly OK for GT to have a FEW such players at a time while we belittle AU,CU,fsu,ugag, etc. etc. for having SEVERAL. The current trend from the snobbish HILL is about to further hypocritize our past. THWG

 

[bellyseries]

Originally posted by GoldZ:
belly, if u read my post then u know good and damned well I did not say that. I'm for a moderate expansion of the curricula that is good for both the academic and athletic interests of The Institute. Notice the "non ugag crap" statement!? Now, why don't u address my "hypocisy" point. Yeah, not so comfy to do so is it? THWG

<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Take a deep breath, goldZ. What I'm saying is that without a major like Keyboarding there are many many athletes who simply are not interested in us. We can get good athletes, but not at the rate FSU gets them.

I know exactly what you mean about the "golden days", I was around then. So what IS your hypocrisy point? That we could recruit with Auburn in 1953, but we can't now, is just a fact.