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Three announcers on ESPN just said that the ref should never have overruled the official on the field for something obviously SO CLOSE THAT IT WASN'T IRREFUTABLE, and that the call was incorrect about crossing the line of scrimmage.
 
I don't know what LOS call you're talking about, but I completely agree that the call never should have been overturned on the TD. I mean, it's impossible to tell on the replay. That is pretty much the opposite of "IRREFUTABLE video evidence." The Ravens got screwed.
 
What they were talking about during the game was, did the receiver have control of the ball and were two feet down, the answer is yes but you could see that the ball wasn't touching the endzone. Very bad call but your right I see no problem as Baltimore won't go very far in the playoffs and Pittsburgh is the only team that can beat Tennessee.
 
I'm just glad they lost because it shuts people up about Flacco passing Ryan for Rookie of the Year.
 
Wreck02 said:
I'm just glad they lost because it shuts people up about Flacco passing Ryan for Rookie of the Year.
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The only people saying that were loons anyway. Matty Ice sewed up ROY a long time ago.
 
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TOUCHDOWN!!!!!

Steelers win!

NFL backs ruling on Steelers' winning touchdown
Monday, December 15, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.
Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.
"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.
The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.
Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."
 
BuzzCzar said:
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TOUCHDOWN!!!!!

Steelers win!

NFL backs ruling on Steelers' winning touchdown
Monday, December 15, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.
Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.
"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.
The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.
Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."
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Amazing that the NFL doesn't call in when the refs completely miss a spot by almost a half yard on 3rd down earlier. It wasn't irrefutable (or whatever the adjective is supposed to be) evidence then, but the refs can overcall their line judge when it is clearly very very difficult to see at the goal line.

My guess is that the official got lost and thought it was a two feet down issue. If the issue had been the goal line then he would have said it instead of announcing the two feet issue in depth. He then backtracked later when he got interviewed, realizing his mistake.


Now as, to refrigeratormover...I can't tell you how disappointed I am to hear that a former player says it doesn't matter because a certain team has no chance. That's total and complete bs John. Not only were the Ravens 7-1 their last 8 games, and not only have the Ravens (and Steelers even more so) played one of the toughest schedules in the NFL, and not only was our scatback Ray Rice out, etc., but the fact remains that teams can get hot at any time. The Ravens lost to the Steelers twice and the Titans: Those three games were all in the waning seconds. Flacco played poorly and if he hits Mason on either of the two wide open end zone throws, the game wouldn't even been close. And you're saying they don't have a chance? Everyone in has a chance.

And the same to the guy who said "the Steelers would have gotten in the end zone on 4th down anyway." Yea, it nevers happens that a play gets stuffed on 4th and inches.
 
I think you may have misunderstood what I said. I don't think Baltimore will go further in the playoffs than Pittsburgh. Obviously I thought they missed the call but I still think Pittsburgh is the better team overall.

I might be missing something, please let me know.
 
refrigeratormover said:
I think you may have misunderstood what I said. I don't think Baltimore will go further in the playoffs than Pittsburgh. Obviously I thought they missed the call but I still think Pittsburgh is the better team overall.

I might be missing something, please let me know.
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Very bad call but your right I see no problem as Baltimore won't go very far in the playoffs and Pittsburgh is the only team that can beat Tennessee. This quote just sounded like you see no problem since Pittsburgh is more likely to beat the Titans anyway or like Baltimore just isn't good enough so who cares about getting calls right.

No big deal, I was just joshing around and have playful arguments. I almost said something about Buffalo but restrained myself. :)
 
I also disagree with the call and was watching the game live. I could not believe they overturned the call. It was as if the ref was saying the ball didn't have to cross the goalline as long as both feet were in the endzone.

This replay thing is going to continue to be an embarrassment until the refs quit trying to cover each others butts.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
I also disagree with the call and was watching the game live. I could not believe they overturned the call. It was as if the ref was saying the ball didn't have to cross the goalline as long as both feet were in the endzone.

This replay thing is going to continue to be an embarrassment until the refs quit trying to cover each others butts.
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I noticed that too. Did you hear his explanation afterward? He said the receiver "caught the ball and got both feet down in the endzone with possession, therefore it is a touchdown." Tough to believe he could not know the rules, but with what we've seen this year....
 
midatlantech said:

I almost said something about Buffalo but restrained myself. :)
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Look, I don't even like pro football anymore after what I have been through. I will refrain from anymore posts regarding the NFL. It is what it is, and we as retired players will deal with it.

GO RAVENS, GO STEELERS.

****, as long as the AFC wins I don't care.
 
BuzzCzar said:
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TOUCHDOWN!!!!!

Steelers win!

NFL backs ruling on Steelers' winning touchdown
Monday, December 15, 2008
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The NFL is backing referee Walt Coleman's decision to overturn a call on the field and rule Santonio Holmes' catch a touchdown that gave the Steelers a 13-9 victory at Baltimore yesterday.
Coleman's officiating crew ruled that Holmes did not get into the end zone when he caught Ben Roethlisberger's pass from the Ravens' four with 43 seconds left. However, after viewing it on replay, Coleman overturned the call and signaled a touchdown.
"Walt Coleman determined via high-def video review that the receiver had possession and two feet down with the ball in the goal line, meaning it broke the plane,'' an NFL spokesman said via e-mail.
The spokesman said Mike Pereira, the NFL's vice president of officiating, backed the Coleman ruling after replay.
Coleman explained after the game that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line."
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You do realize that the NFL NEVER calls out it's referee's In case anyone has amnesia, Ed Hochuli was admonished more for admitting his mistake in the San Diego/Denver game than for missing the call in the first place. There was nothing conclusive about that play. ESPN stopped the frame, zoomed in, and it STILL wasn't conclusive. You couldn't have overturned that by the letter of the law.
 
GTSaxophone said:
You do realize that the NFL NEVER calls out it's referee's In case anyone has amnesia, Ed Hochuli was admonished more for admitting his mistake in the San Diego/Denver game than for missing the call in the first place. There was nothing conclusive about that play. ESPN stopped the frame, zoomed in, and it STILL wasn't conclusive. You couldn't have overturned that by the letter of the law.
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given all of the miserably horrible ACC "replay" interpretations all year long against the Jackets, and for several years now, i just consider it Karma

i wasnt posting that as proof, just for salt in the wounds of a Ravens fan
 
BuzzCzar said:
given all of the miserably horrible ACC "replay" interpretations all year long against the Jackets, and for several years now, i just consider it Karma

i wasnt posting that as proof, just for salt in the wounds of a Ravens fan
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You have no idea what it's been like. Prior to this year, I watched the same teams on Sat and Sun. The Jackets had exciting defenses and below average offenses. Then I'd have to follow it up with the exact same team almost. This was our break out year with exciting offense for Tech and much more interesting offense for the Ravens.
 
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