Reggie for Heisman!!!

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81. QB Reggie Ball, Georgia Tech – Hey, stranger things have happened. Ball’s been one of the nation’s least consistent quarterbacks the last three years, throwing too many picks and giving up too many sacks, but strides were made, and as long as Calvin Johnson is healthy, the potential is there for solid senior year.

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If in November if they are still talking about Reggie having an outside shot. It will mean GTech has had an awsome year and that sounds very very good to me.
 
Reggie has had a tough row to hoe. He had talent coming out of HS that would have been coached up at another school rather than thrust into the responsible position of keeping us from being rebuilding, 2-8, dopes.

I appreciate Reggie and wish him all the best. If the OL doesn't lay it all down and kick serious tail for RB this year it will be on the OL. Quite frankly as it has been the past two years.

The man has been running for his life and no one can question his loyalty.

Let's get it done this year, Reggie. We are pulling for you!

GO JACKETS!!!
 
I don't think anyone would ever question Reggie's loyalty or heart. He probably leads the team in the heart category.
 
I think you are being unfair to the OL. Two years ago they were pretty good and last year, although they struggled with straight ahead blocking, they generally protected the QB well. Hopefully this year they will be a bit more stout and handle all situations and then yes, I agree that Reggie will eventually get more time.

But this is a two way street and Reggie likes to drift backwards and right out of protection. He has to give his line a chance and other than the VPI game, they were fine.
 
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I think you are being unfair to the OL. Two years ago they were pretty good and last year, although they struggled with straight ahead blocking, they generally protected the QB well. Hopefully this year they will be a bit more stout and handle all situations and then yes, I agree that Reggie will eventually get more time.

But this is a two way street and Reggie likes to drift backwards and right out of protection. He has to give his line a chance and other than the VPI game, they were fine.

[/ QUOTE ]There have been problems with OL during Reggie's tenure - I agree they were good 2 years ago, however, there were many injury problems and there was very little quality depth. Last year was size and inexperience.

This year we'll have the best combination of size, depth, and quality that Reggie has played behind in his 4 years.
 
You're right that this should be a better line. But it's also true that Reggie bails on the line too quickly in many cases. It's a two way street. The line has to protect better but Reggie also has to trust them and step up in the pocket.
 
I talked with a few O players just before the Cuse game in Orlando. One was specific when he told me that often our QB runs out of the pocket which causes the protection to break down. Our QB, as I have said many times gets happy feet which results in what appears to be bad line play. As NCJ said he often runs when he needs to stay put.
 
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I talked with a few O players just before the Cuse game in Orlando. One was specific when he told me that often our QB runs out of the pocket which causes the protection to break down. Our QB, as I have said many times gets happy feet which results in what appears to be bad line play. As NCJ said he often runs when he needs to stay put.

[/ QUOTE ]There are many causes to the offensive problems we've had the last few years. Reggie takes way more than his share of the blame.

He's done a lot of good things for GT and deserves to get some of the credit.
 
Reggie does deserve credit for much of what's gone right withour offense over the last 3 years. But he also deserves much of the criticism he's gotten. You can't have it both ways. The simply fact is that if he could complete more than half his passes and hit some receivers in stride it would make a world of difference in our production. Has he been victimized at times by poor pass blocking or dropped passes? Yes. But he's also been his own worst enemy at times with inconsistent performances, bad throws and poor reads. It's time he steps up and shows us what he's capable of on a regular basis.
 
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I think you are being unfair to the OL.

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Oh, I'm sorry. We have had the very best, most kick butt OL in the whole state of Georgy!

God bless these kids. They're gonna need it in the ACC and I'll be pulling for them as oppossed to defending them.
 
I was not gong to post this but with the jist of this thread I have decided to. The offensive players that I spoke with were highly critical of our QB. It seemed they just wanted to get rid of the guy. I did not press them for exact details but I did conclude they didn't like his running all the time. I also concluded they did not like his decision making during a game.

All in all if we the fan base don't like his decision making and even the players don't like his play then I have concluded we have the wrong guy at QB.
 
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All in all if we the fan base don't like his decision making and even the players don't like his play then I have concluded we have the wrong guy at QB.

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C'mon foggie, that's just silly - you talked to a couple of guys a couple of years ago who didn't like Reggie and then you extrapolate that to "the players" and to "the fan base" to conclude he's the wrong guy. Faulty premises lead to faulty conclusions.


Here's what a friend relayed to me about his conversation with an offensive lineman a few weeks ago:

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I specifically asked him about Reggie and his progress and attitude and he said that he will have a big year and he gets a bad rap about the attitude. He said Reggie is the best leader he's ever been around. He told a story about how he was a true freshman in one of the first practices trying to push the 3 man sled by himself and he couldn't hardly move it. suddenly he felt someone helping him and when he was finished it was Reggie that had run over from the qb drills and was lending a hand. he said he does all kinds of little things like that and that is why his teammates love him and follow him.

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foggie, despite your difficulties with truth, I don't doubt the players you talked to were indeed critical of Reggie. But that isn't necesarily an indication of a consensus of players about Reggie, except that you wanted it to be.
 
GTL, do you need glasses? I never said it was all the O players! One of whom is gone now. Many on this board, the Hive and even Bo have slammed our QB so my statement still stands many do not like our QB. There was a post here I believe when a fan booed our QB's play his dad threatened him. So make that many do not like our QB. And, that's the truth, maybe not to you but to many!
 
I don't want to beat a dead horse. BUT...

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All in all if we the fan base don't like his decision making and even the players don't like his play then I have concluded we have the wrong guy at QB.

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I would assume from this quote that you infered that the majority of the players including those on offense, don't like his play. You obviously believe we have the wrong guy. Well, who else should start over Reggie? Seriously? If we have the wrong guy in the position, certainly we have a better viable option.

I have been very critical myself of Reggie Ball. That said, he seems to be our only option, so if that is the case, he is the ONLY guy we have. If anything, I blame the coaches for not having the ability to better maxmize our QB production from 1.) not being able to develop our QB's and 2.) poor recruiting at the position.

I believe Reggie is trying very hard. I just don't think the Coaches have done much with working with Reggie and I don't think they've recruited viable options outside of Reggie so that we could have someone surpass him.

To me, that's the bottom line regarding our QB play. Its not the player's fault, and certainly Ball seems to be our best bet to win games and I think most of the players on the team know that.
 
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Reggie does deserve credit for much of what's gone right withour offense over the last 3 years. But he also deserves much of the criticism he's gotten. You can't have it both ways. The simply fact is that if he could complete more than half his passes and hit some receivers in stride it would make a world of difference in our production. Has he been victimized at times by poor pass blocking or dropped passes? Yes. But he's also been his own worst enemy at times with inconsistent performances, bad throws and poor reads. It's time he steps up and shows us what he's capable of on a regular basis.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't necessarily disagree with any of that - we've all seen him play. He's given us some disappointing moments, he's given us some thrilling moments.

It's my opinion that the OL is more to blame during his first 3 years - we've dealt with injuries, lack of depth (flunkgate, 2 career ending injuries (Brezina/Phillips), and early departure) and inexperience last year due to the depth issues.

Maybe Reggie does get happy feet and move out too early - perhaps he's conditioned to do it based on all of the things I just mentioned.

Bottom line - an offense <u>will not</u> work if the OLine isn't working. An offense can work around a QB as long as he can avoid crucial mistakes - and he has improved in that area.
 
You are correct BOR I should phrase it properly and said 2 players on the O. You are also correct in that you alluded to our QB has not been coached up. You are also correct in that we have no other option. Not to beat that dead horse but is it not the responsibility of at least some of the coaches to correct his problems and to recruit other competent QB's?

I agree that our QB does try hard he is just not a QB for a high level D1 school. Maybe a Troy or even a Central Fla. I also agree that he has had some good moments but I'm afraid that his sub .500 completions and more INT's than TD's means that something is wrong with the kid. Is it coaching, is it the line play, is it him, or is is it a combination of the 3? In either case for 3 years now we've heard that the kid is improving in this, or that, or the other, but it has not shown on the field.

Oh yes, read the posts in another thread and see the photos of the kid throwing off the back foot etc.
 
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