Response to REALIST post.....

[MoverofFridge2]

I did not want it to appear that I was hijacking the thread.

I would like to offer up this though.

I have read where CG did state, "Reggie will never be an accurate passer who completes a high percentage of his passes." I have read that in several interviews with CG.

I am not going to bash any coaches or players in this thread, BUT I do believe in one thing very strongly.

It is the coaches responsibility to put our SA's in the best possible position to be successful. If CG is making this comment then why are we not doing something offensively to help make RB more successful. I'm sorry fellas but the job of the QB coach is to make sure that his player(s) are well coached in the fundamentals of the position. For four years we have seen RB throw off his back foot and perform poorly. IMO this is coaching. I am not saying he is not being taught the fundamentals by CPN, but if he is then he dang sure is not following through with what he has been taught. It gets frustrating to watch RB step into a throw an rifle a perfect completion and then the next ten he is throwing off his back foot. I have been stating this for the past 4 years and it still has not changed. THERE has to be a reason why. If he is playing his own game out there, then he needs to be riding the pine IMO.

Let's all hope things go better in the Bowl game.

I still feel changes are needed but that is not my call.

Just one person simple opinion stated.

 

[beej67]

If CG is making this comment then why are we not doing something offensively to help make RB more successful.

We did, this year. We called longer passes, so when he does finally complete one, they go for more yards. Note that YPA went way up this year, even though comp %age didn't.

 

[odw]

i think we'll see what's what when our next QB gets in there. Its hard to tell whether Ball's lack of improve was him just doing his own thing or our coaches not coaching him up well. We'll see once our next QB gets in there. Regardless of who wins the job, he'll have more talent (passing wise) than our last two QBs. If we have this same lack of improve, I think we can pinpoint the issue on coaching.

I think we may need to look into getting a new QB coach. I think Nix will be a good OC, but I'm not sure if he that good of a QB coach.

 

[beej67]

I'm not sold on Nix in any aspect of coaching right now. I'm not willing to throw him under a bus after one year, when technically our offensive production did go up, but I won't break my back defending him either.

I do think Chan did what he needed to do to disassociate himself from direct responsibility for our offense, in giving the reigns to Nix. I definitely think it'll be much easier for Chan to fire Nix now that Nix is the actual playcaller.

I'd say the chances Nix gets fired at the end of the year are slim. 10% maybe. But the chance is there, IMO. Especially if the offense tanks vs WV. I'd say the chance that Nix gets fired if the offense doesn't improve next year are much higher, like 80% or more.

 

[TampaJacket]

II'm sorry fellas but the job of the QB coach is to make sure that his player(s) are well coached in the fundamentals of the position. For four years we have seen RB throw off his back foot and perform poorly. IMO this is coaching. I am not saying he is not being taught the fundamentals by CPN, but if he is then he dang sure is not following through with what he has been taught. It gets frustrating to watch RB step into a throw an rifle a perfect completion and then the next ten he is throwing off his back foot. I have been stating this for the past 4 years and it still has not changed. THERE has to be a reason why. If he is playing his own game out there, then he needs to be riding the pine IMO.

Perhaps the reason he's throwing from his back foot is pressure in his face, and his options are either throw from the back foot or a sack or batted-down pass. Faced with those alternatives, I'd take a less-accurate throw (provided it is not intercepted), and I'd bet that the coaches agree....Mike

 

[odw]

I'd say the chances Nix gets fired at the end of the year are slim. 10% maybe. But the chance is there, IMO. Especially if the offense tanks vs WV. I'd say the chance that Nix gets fired if the offense doesn't improve next year are much higher, like 80% or more.

See that's the thing I'm wondering. I get the impression that most think our offense needs to improve alot. We improved from like 10 in ypg to 3th this year in the ACC and up to 5th in scoring from like 11th last year.

I don't exactly understand what facts these people saying Nix should lose his job are going off of.

Improving your unit from just about dead last to one of the top in the conference in about 6 months or so as the official OC = Nix has to go??? Maybe I'm missing something.

 

[mm42]

I'd say the chances Nix gets fired at the end of the year are slim. 10% maybe. But the chance is there, IMO.

I'd say the chance is basically zero:

Tech coach Chan Gailey said he is happy with the first year of having quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator Patrick Nix call the plays, a job formerly held by Gailey.

Gailey gave a firm approval of Nix in the role Monday even though the Tech offense and quarterback Reggie Ball faltered late in the season, scoring no more than 12 points in three of the last four games. Tech overcame a poor offensive showing to beat North Carolina 7-0 on Nov. 11 before losing to Georgia 15-12 and then losing the battle of field goals to Wake Forest.

``I feel very confident in that, where it is now and where I think it will be in the future,'' Gailey said when asked about the play-calling arrangement.

http://www.ncaafootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=34&url_article_id=8881&change_well_id=2

 

[midatlantech]

Reggie has plenty of time to throw. It's not the OL and if it was it would only be because he backs up and let's the DE's get to him.

Guys, it's Reggie. He can't go through his reads. He can't make the pass over the middle because he constantly throws high and the safeties will have a field day. When he could run, his limited QB skills were not as much as a liability. The last half of the season he couldn't run.

 

[GEETEELEE]

Guys, it's Reggie. He can't go through his reads. He can't make the pass over the middle because he constantly throws high and the safeties will have a field day.

If the coaches should be fired for not teaching him how to do those things. And ya know why no one else has taken over? 'cause the coaches couldn't teach them, either. fire 'em! Today!!!

 

[pocket_watch]

At least we don't have Mike BoBo as OC.

With Nix, some people's impression of him is that he is rude and surly. That leads many to believe he must be "crafty."

BoBo, doesn't appear to have the same "evil genius" qualities. He actually looks and talks like a total hick.

Of course, Mike BoBo has never lost to Ga. Tech. Ever.

 

[beej67]

I've read a lot of stuff about the lengts to which our coaching staff went to make sure his fundamentals were good.

There are plenty of times this year where Reggie has looked like a real QB. The problem with Reggie is mental. He loses his cool. When he's cool, he has great fundamentals. When he's cool, he makes his reads. When he's cool, he throws on-target. He's just not cool in big games. Miami was a notable exception, but even in that game he had a fumble returned for a TD.

Reggie doesn't need a QB coach, he needs a psychologist.

 

[pocket_watch]

Reggie doesn't need a QB coach, he needs a psychologist.

What Reggie needs is a degree. He will be fine with a GT education.
I am 95% sure he gave it his all 100% of the time.
Being a successful division one quarterback is not easy.
Reggie wanted to be able to read defenses properly, but just couldn't. He wanted to do all the things he just doesn't have. There is no shame in that.
I don't blame him for not replacing himself. All that is on another fellow.

 

[mm42]

There are plenty of times this year where Reggie has looked like a real QB. The problem with Reggie is mental. He loses his cool. When he's cool, he has great fundamentals. When he's cool, he makes his reads. When he's cool, he throws on-target.

Bingo!

He's just not cool in big games.

This is taking it too far - Reggie has had mental "episodes" in all types of games, and has played with poise in all types of games. VPI was a big game and Miami was a big game, Auburn '03 and '05 were big games, and he played very well in all those games. However, he definitely psyched himself out of every game against Georgia.

 

[chilidogking]

What Reggie needs is a degree. He will be fine with a GT education.

Lil Joe needs to kick him around a little bit and get him focused on his education.

 

[pocket_watch]

Lil Joe needs to kick him around a little bit and get him focused on his education.

Joe will very likely have a nice football career once he gets his degree. Reggie probably needs to turn his attention towards a business career. I hope his degree is in the near future.

 

[beej67]

This is taking it too far - Reggie has had mental "episodes" in all types of games, and has played with poise in all types of games. VPI was a big game and Miami was a big game, Auburn '03 and '05 were big games, and he played very well in all those games. However, he definitely psyched himself out of every game against Georgia.

Yeah, you're right. He has played well in some big games, and not in others.

 

[MoverofFridge2]

Perhaps the reason he's throwing from his back foot is pressure in his face, and his options are either throw from the back foot or a sack or batted-down pass. Faced with those alternatives, I'd take a less-accurate throw (provided it is not intercepted), and I'd bet that the coaches agree....Mike

Mike,

I can agree with your reply in a lot of instances. But, there have been many times RB has thrown off of his back foot when he did not have to. I, like you, will take the less accurate throw as well. There have been few times when RB has planted and thrown off his back foot.

 

[MoverofFridge2]

I've read a lot of stuff about the lengts to which our coaching staff went to make sure his fundamentals were good.

There are plenty of times this year where Reggie has looked like a real QB. The problem with Reggie is mental. He loses his cool. When he's cool, he has great fundamentals. When he's cool, he makes his reads. When he's cool, he throws on-target. He's just not cool in big games. Miami was a notable exception, but even in that game he had a fumble returned for a TD.

Reggie doesn't need a QB coach, he needs a psychologist.

AMEN BEEJ!!!!!

How many QB's across the country do we all watch that tlkas all the sh*t RB talks. It gets to where I try to tune it out as much as possible. There is no room in the game for all that smack talking he does during a game. Run the play, shut up, get in the huddle and let's playball!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TampaJacket]

Mike,

I can agree with your reply in a lot of instances. But, there have been many times RB has thrown off of his back foot when he did not have to. I, like you, will take the less accurate throw as well. There have been few times when RB has planted and thrown off his back foot.

Thanks for your response. I think BJ hit the nail on the head when it comes to Reggie:

There are plenty of times this year where Reggie has looked like a real QB. The problem with Reggie is mental. He loses his cool. When he's cool, he has great fundamentals. When he's cool, he makes his reads. When he's cool, he throws on-target.

Take care, and here's hoping to even greater success in the Gator bowl and in '07!

 

[LongforDodd]

Mike,

I can agree with your reply in a lot of instances. But, there have been many times RB has thrown off of his back foot when he did not have to. I, like you, will take the less accurate throw as well. There have been few times when RB has planted and thrown off his back foot.

Throwing off your back foot is a preparation to getting nailed and in Reggie's case it has developed into an instinct. It happens, more often that not, in the smallish QB's. Watch Brett Favre. He made a pretty good career out of it though.