Return of the Midline

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fishinjacket

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I'm not sure if I've seen it mentioned anywhere in here, but I feel that a huge part of the success from Saturday was the ability and the fortitude of CPJ to call the midline. It was something that Jordan brought b/c of his size and it seemed that Foster didn't have an answer for it. Just a thought as it was nice to see the midline come back in such a strong form, and a big reason why we were able to be so effective up the middle Saturday afternoon. Hope to see some more midline be called, even occasionally w/ JT, not just qb draw that we see called w/ him.
 
fishinjacket said:
I'm not sure if I've seen it mentioned anywhere in here, but I feel that a huge part of the success from Saturday was the ability and the fortitude of CPJ to call the midline. It was something that Jordan brought b/c of his size and it seemed that Foster didn't have an answer for it. Just a thought as it was nice to see the midline come back in such a strong form, and a big reason why we were able to be so effective up the middle Saturday afternoon. Hope to see some more midline be called, even occasionally w/ JT, not just qb draw that we see called w/ him.
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I agree that the midline was crucial in our win and ability to hold the ball. I don't see us being able to run it successfully with JT, though. He's just too small to push the pile or take the pounding play after play.
 
Agree. The midline is a huge weapon in our offense and a big reason 2009 was as successful as it was. Nesbitt ran the midline a ton and we chewed up a lot of clock that year. IMO we need it and have to have it. Problem is JT cant run it.
 
Those two 50+ yard TD runs busting up the middle were the most dominant our offense has been this whole season. Also, Jordan slamming the ball in the endzone to put us up 20-0. If that's what we can look forward to, designed plays or not, I'm ok with that.
 
I need to go back and listen, but I'm fairly confident that CPJ in his post-game presser said we ran more QB follow than midline. Again, if I recall correctly, he stated we may have run the midline only 5 or so times.
 
fishinjacket said:
Hope to see some more midline be called, even occasionally w/ JT, not just qb draw that we see called w/ him.
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People have called in to the radio show multiple times to ask about JT5 and the midline, and CPJ gives the same response each time: JT5 has never been successful running it, so CPJ has stopped calling it.
 
What's cool is that we can effectively run two different offenses based on who is in at QB. I would say, as has been implied/stated here, that MJ being in at QB when Foster was expecting JT5 was a big part of why we had the success on the ground we had against VPI this past Saturday.

I would guess that an opposing DC would have to install two game plans going forward - one with a faster, smaller QB like JT5 and one with a bigger, but slower QB like MJ.

Have to wonder if Ole Kirby was pissing his pants after watching us beat down VPI.
 
gth874t said:
What's cool is that we can effectively run two different offenses based on who is in at QB.
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If we had a large B-Back/QB and a throwing A-Back/QB, then the defense would never know which personal to have on the field.

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fishinjacket said:
I'm not sure if I've seen it mentioned anywhere in here, but I feel that a huge part of the success from Saturday was the ability and the fortitude of CPJ to call the midline. It was something that Jordan brought b/c of his size and it seemed that Foster didn't have an answer for it. Just a thought as it was nice to see the midline come back in such a strong form, and a big reason why we were able to be so effective up the middle Saturday afternoon. Hope to see some more midline be called, even occasionally w/ JT, not just qb draw that we see called w/ him.
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I bet it was purely that the midline wasn't part of our prior gameplans, so Bud didn't spend a lot of time preparing on it. Probably spent all that prep time working on the rocket toss and on play action, which is where we raped Duke.

Which is also probably why we held back JT's injury until the last second.
 
beej67 said:
I bet it was purely that the midline wasn't part of our prior gameplans, so Bud didn't spend a lot of time preparing on it. Probably spent all that prep time working on the rocket toss and on play action, which is where we raped Duke.

Which is also probably why we held back JT's injury until the last second.
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Foster's game plan has always been vulnerable to the midline. That was the play where Nesbitt broke Dantzler's rushing record.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
I need to go back and listen, but I'm fairly confident that CPJ in his post-game presser said we ran more QB follow than midline. Again, if I recall correctly, he stated we may have run the midline only 5 or so times.
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What's the difference between the QB follow & the midline?
 
joeye said:
What's the difference between the QB follow & the midline?
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QB follow = QB follows the B-Back, who acts as a lead blocker
Mimdline = B-Back dives like normal TO and QB follows a OG or OT
 
WracerX said:
Foster's game plan has always been vulnerable to the midline. That was the play where Nesbitt broke Dantzler's rushing record.
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Also the QB duck. I heard that is one of the hardest plays in football to stop.
 
gtphd said:
QB follow = QB follows the B-Back, who acts as a lead blocker
Mimdline = B-Back dives like normal TO and QB follows a OG or OT
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Also, the midline is an option play whereas the QB follow is a called QB keeper.
 
16 thumbs up in this thread and no big cries and thumb downs. Wtf is wrong with this place?
 
joeye said:
What's the difference between the QB follow & the midline?
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I won't swear to it but I believe there is an unblocked DL on the midline (because he bit on a bogus assignment) whereas on the QB follow, every DL is accounted for by a blocker (incl the one the Bback picks up). The midline requires (I think) the QB to read the DL and decide what to do where as the QB follow is called and executed straight up.
 
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