School needs to make up their mind

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  1. BuzzCzar

    BuzzCzar Defender of the Universe

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    it does, but it doesnt make sense. what is your mind close to?

    it is closed to new ideas, thus closed minded.

    close minded? a door is not close, it is closed. same with your mind, unless it is the f**k rite
     
  2. etc79

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    Mind blown...:wink:
     
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    It doesnt happen often by you but thanks for putting a smile on my face. I can go to bed now laughing.
     
  4. goldmember

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    We already have drastically reduced standards compared to regular students. If having a 1000 SAT and 3.0 gives you a good chance at graduating, why isn't this the standard for the regular students.

    Based on your options above we are already letting them 'Cheat their way through'. What difference does a 1000 or 950 on the SAT make if the regular students average north of 1350.
     
  5. BuzzCzar

    BuzzCzar Defender of the Universe

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    here is why and it is very simple. the school has MINIMUM requirement that ALL students should meet in order to be able to pass

    after that its a competition. while some students have super high SAT scores some can throw a baseball or jump to dunk or run over linebackers or play flute or do research on earthquakes in china

    the competition for spots involves more than just scores BUT you have to have high enough scores to show that you can pass the classes

    are the tests the only indicator? no, so im ok with giving some borderline cases a shot. but to make a practice of it is a disservice to the student-athlete.

    what we do now is nothing like cheating. we dont have fake majors, we dont make up fake classes, and we dont let people in that dont meet some minimum requirement

    just because the average student at Tech scores higher, that doesnt mean that all are not meeting the MINIMUM

    take Georgie, even with their easier minimums, they still have about 70 percent of the football team NOT meet the minimum requirements...
     
  6. texstinger

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    - Contact Bud by the boatloads. He does respond.

    - Give money to AA but not the school

    - get a coach who can recruit for academics we have
    now

    - obtain degree programs that enhance the Institute
    and, yes, will help us on the athletic front.

    - Find ways to communicate to the hillnerds that we
    are not taking their arrogant crap anymore. It is
    more than just their school.

    - tell the whiners to get off their high horse about
    their precious degrees and make them take some
    responsibility for their own ----ing success or failure
     
  7. BuzzLaw

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    My whole family went to UGA except for me. I'd like to have a Happy Thanksgiving every now and then. If offering a basket weaving major allows that to happen, then I'm 100% in favor of it. While a few folks complain that it hurts our degrees, we can win some games.
     
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    You didn't address my 2 key points, what is magical about 1000 on the SAT that makes you be able to pass classes while below that means you must cheat your way through. The athletes scoring around 1000 are mostly significanlty inferior students to the the regular students. You are talking about the lower end of Georgia Southern profile there. They are obviously passing by heavy tutoring, jock friendly prof's, and lower standards. Most are doing inferior work compared to the regular students. This is obvious, but is somehow left out of all of these discussions.

    The 2nd part is how having lesss rigorous majors affects research dollars. If it did, then why are there so many top tier universities in the bcs top 25. Why isn't it dominated by the Southern Miss's and East Carolina's of the world. Why is Texas and UCLA and Michigan's there (among several others). Doesn't seem to affect their research dollars.
     
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    What about the school has already made up their mind don't you guys understand? The game is up. GT doesn't give a ---- about football.
     
  10. ramblinwise1

    ramblinwise1 beware the zealot

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    Actually there's a good chance that having it immortalized on a popular message board is far superior to sending a letter that can be crimpled and thrown into the trash. But I do indeed plan on sending a letter to Bud, just to give him the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    Because winning football enhances a school's academic and research goals vs lessening degree values. Many on here don't get it and more importantly the snobs on the Hill don't. 60 Minutes did a good expose on this last week, with college presidents recognizing the value of their sports programs, that their academic programs alone could never achieve. (Now, here comes the lame ass "mission statement" rebuttal--brace yourself)
     
  12. andrew

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    The best part of this thread is the people saying our attitude towards athletics and insistence on high quality majors is going to somehow hurt us or allow U[sic]GA to pass us.

    This despite the fact that not only is our school healthier academically than it has ever been, but also growing continually more diverse, with a rising business program that is already recognized as very good and expands our appeal to good students who aren't just STEM-focused.

    Apparently our strategy of maintaining a rigorous academic curriculum for everyone in the school and adding top notch programs to diversify is stifling us academically. What we really need are some dumbed down majors so that we can get people (not just limited to athletes) into the school who aren't very strong academically so we can...well, I'm not really sure, but if we don't do it U[sic]GA will become a better school than us!

    Actually, maybe that's not the best but the scariest part of the thread, because some people genuinely seem to believe it.

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    Take a look at Techs AA Annual Report and you will see monies moving between athletic and academic programs. Take a look at Notre Dames rise academically. Money does move between programs and is easily laundered through Chairs, infrastructure, etc that the academic side would otherwise have to purchase.
     
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    or someone could start a firebudpeterson.com website.

    Leave it up there until Tech gets a new major.
     
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    FIFY

    GO JACKETS!!
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    andrew Bobby Bonilla's Financial Planner

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    So the answer to why we need a better football team to help our academics is so that we can make money off of football which we can launder over to the school to buy stuff?

    Do you realize our endowment is currently sitting at 1.6 billion dollars? Exactly how much do you think our football program would move over to the academic side if we put a focus on improving it?

    Before you answer, keep in mind that Texas's athletic department, which has had great success recently and has a much bigger fanbase than we ever will no matter how well we do, has operating revenues of about $150 million a year compared to operating expenses of $130 million a year, leaving a profit of only $20 million a year.
     
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    This could be a big reason why DRad left?
     
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    But he said that he grew up watching Clemson football in rural Pennsylvania and was a huge fan of the Tiggers when he was just a wee lad. Why would he lie? :hsughcry:
     
  20. cuzjacket

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    I guess we will see how good of a business school we are when the football program becomes a money loser in the years to come. Season tickets sales will be way down next year, and I don't see us doing well with walk up sales to counter it either. Football can be an asset or a drain on the school. Its going to have to be a drain before anything happens I'm afraid.