Should've been a shut-out.

The picture says it all. Another bad call by ACC refs? Look...TB is on his ass and the ball is very clearly still in his hands. He is down! There could have been no fumble. he was down!
 
wreckingball said:
The picture says it all. Another bad call by ACC refs? Look...TB is on his ass and the ball is very clearly still in his hands. He is down! There could have been no fumble. he was down!
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Our coaching staff is just as responsible for not reviewing this as the officials are...

By the way, did the thought cross anyone's mind (when it happened) that Taylor could've been down? Not mine - looked like a fumble from my seats.
 
SHould have been a fumble later, on Clemson's last drive of the first half that resulted in the missed field goal. Their guy caught a pass and was stripped and we picked it up going the other way and they whistled it dead and called it incomplete.....and no review at all. Win's a win, the refs can't beat us every game.
 
gtfan1147 said:
SHould have been a fumble later, on Clemson's last drive of the first half that resulted in the missed field goal. Their guy caught a pass and was stripped and we picked it up going the other way and they whistled it dead and called it incomplete.....and no review at all. Win's a win, the refs can't beat us every game.
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MJ was going for 6 on that one too.
 
The Clemson fumble couldn't be reviewed. They ended the play with a whistle. If they had let the play finish and THEN ruled it an incomplete pass, it could have been reviewed.
 
As for TB's "fumble," we'd have gotten screwed by the replay refs anyway. We can't even get a good call when replay is involved.
 
GTWannaBee said:
As for TB's "fumble," we'd have gotten screwed by the replay refs anyway. We can't even get a good call when replay is involved.
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The more calls they overturn, the worse it makes them look on the field. The guys in the booth and the guys on the field are all on the same team afterall.
 
ContactBuzz said:
The more calls they overturn, the worse it makes them look on the field. The guys in the booth and the guys on the field are all on the same team afterall.
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I agree to some point, but when everyone watching in the stadium and on the tube(announcers included)see its a bad call then they review it and still don't overturn it. It sure doesn't make 'em look good. What good is replay if its not used properly.... After further review there is conclusive evidence that ACC ref's aren't worth a bucket of warm piss!!
 
I think the fact that Taylor tried to toss the ball to Choice and he didn't catch it is the issue. I am not sure what the rule is but since he was in the process of tossing the ball when he hit the ground the ball is considered fumbled. I think it may be akin to forward progress on a pass when a defensive player hits the Qb's arm.
 
be thankful for what we got -a win over a truly bumbly clem team,we LUCKED out
 
mts315 said:
I think the fact that Taylor tried to toss the ball to Choice and he didn't catch it is the issue. I am not sure what the rule is but since he was in the process of tossing the ball when he hit the ground the ball is considered fumbled. I think it may be akin to forward progress on a pass when a defensive player hits the Qb's arm.
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It's impossible to tell from a still frame if he was still in possession of the ball when he touched down. We'd need a video replay. If the ball was already coming out of his hand then it would be a fumble. If he still had possession though he should have been down; there's no special rule that says you can't be downed when handing the ball off.
 
If this was the NFL I believe that would still be a fumble, but the NCAA is different. You don't need contact to be downed.
 
Wow I never thought it wasn't a fumble but thats pretty conclusive, unless you are an ACC replay ref that is.

The pass fumble by Clemson not being reviewed was BS. They could have called it a fumble but said it was blown dead after 90 picked it up. BTW, 90 is not MJ.
 
ramblinwise1 said:
The pass fumble by Clemson not being reviewed was BS. They could have called it a fumble but said it was blown dead after 90 picked it up. BTW, 90 is not MJ.
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No, they couldn't have. This has been gone over a million times on this board. Once a play is ruled dead, everything after that is completely invalid. It doesn't matter when the whistle was blown, it could have been blown after we took the ball all the way into the endzone, because the play ended up being ruled dead on the field prior to the ball being picked up. It is, by rule, impossible for the replay booth to overturn it after that.
 
gth816f said:
No, they couldn't have. This has been gone over a million times on this board. Once a play is ruled dead, everything after that is completely invalid. It doesn't matter when the whistle was blown, it could have been blown after we took the ball all the way into the endzone, because the play ended up being ruled dead on the field prior to the ball being picked up. It is, by rule, impossible for the replay booth to overturn it after that.
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How do we know the play was whistled dead prior to what should have been a change in possession? I was at the game and didn't have the privilege of hearing the whistle. It looked to me that no ref waved his arms to stop the play until 90 was on his way, but I really don't know. I've seen similar calls before where the recovering team was awarded the ball but not allowed to advance the ball due to "inadvertent" whistle.
 
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