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beej67

beej67

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Lets say we beat Clemson, and Miami beats us, and the rest of the games go about like everyone figures up to that point.

The following week, Miami will play VT. If VT wins, we go to the championship, and if Miami wins, they go to the championship, unless they were to lose to UVA or BC, in which case we'd go.

Right?


We really need to beat Clemson, and Clemson really needs to beat us. Yeesh.
 
Ok now say Clemson beats us, but we beat Miami. Miami will have 2 losses, and VT will have 1, but we'll have the head-to-head over VT so we go to the championship. But if Miami beats us as well, we're out of it with 2 losses.

Right?

We really need to beat Miami, and Miami really needs to beat us. Yeesh.


I gotta quit this. Giving myself ulcers.
 
beej67 said:
Lets say we beat Clemson, and Miami beats us, and the rest of the games go about like everyone figures up to that point.

The following week, Miami will play VT. If VT wins, we go to the championship, and if Miami wins, they go to the championship, unless they were to lose to UVA or BC, in which case we'd go.

Right?
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Wrong. You're forgetting Miami's loss to FSU. If our only loss is to Miami, we go to the championship no matter what as we have the tie breaker over VT and no one else can have only one loss.

EDIT: UVA could also have only one loss, but we have the tie-breaker over them as well.

By loss I am referring to only ACC games of course.
 
If our only loss is to Miami, we go to the championship no matter what as we have the tie breaker over VT and no one else can have only one loss.
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Miami can still finish ACC play with only 1 conference loss, provided they beat us and VT. That's what I was getting at. We'd both have 1 loss, and they'd have the head-to-head against us.
 
beej67 said:
Ok now say Clemson beats us, but we beat Miami. Miami will have 2 losses, and VT will have 1, but we'll have the head-to-head over VT so we go to the championship. But if Miami beats us as well, we're out of it with 2 losses.

Right?

We really need to beat Miami, and Miami really needs to beat us. Yeesh.


I gotta quit this. Giving myself ulcers.
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Without beating UNC,NCstate,Duke,MD--This is really fantasy.
 
beej67 said:
Miami can still finish ACC play with only 1 conference loss, provided they beat us and VT. That's what I was getting at. We'd both have 1 loss, and they'd have the head-to-head against us.
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That's what I get for reading those two posts back-to-back!! I even re-read them several times to make sure it was correct.

::SIGHS::
 
Good. Now work out what needs to happen to get us to the BCS championship game.
 
ACC Tiebreaker Rules


Two-Team Tie
  • 1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams

    2. Records of the tied teams within the division.

    3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record.(divisional) Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.

    4. Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.

    5. Combined record vs. all non-divisional teams.

    6. Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.

    7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.

    8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.

Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
  • 1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams

    2. Records of the tied teams within the division.

    3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.

    4. Overall record for non-divisional teams.

    5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.

    6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.

    7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.

    8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
 
WracerX said:
Good. Now work out what needs to happen to get us to the BCS championship game.
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1) We win out, in convincing fashion.
2) Everyone else ahead of us in the polls loses. (Maybe not quite that off, but any currently undefeated teams would have to lose for us to even sniff the top 10. OSU may need to lose twice, and Texas would probably have to lose again.)
 
WracerX said:
Good. Now work out what needs to happen to get us to the BCS championship game.
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We turn back time and beat ND this time. I swear if ND turns out to be our only loss this year, I'm never speaking of the Irish again.

......Though I would be happy with a 13-1 record after ACC championship and the BCS bowls.
 
WracerX said:
Good. Now work out what needs to happen to get us to the BCS championship game.
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1) Calvin stays for next season
2) We're rated high preseason next year
3) We go undefeated
 
I have already completed my wayback machine. All I need now is a talking dog to run it.
 
JTS said:
ACC Tiebreaker Rules


Two-Team Tie
  • 1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams

    2. Records of the tied teams within the division.

    3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record.(divisional) Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last.

    4. Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents.

    5. Combined record vs. all non-divisional teams.

    6. Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division.

    7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game.

    8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
  • 1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams

    2. Records of the tied teams within the division.

    3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.

    4. Overall record for non-divisional teams.

    5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.

    6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.

    7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.

    8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
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Can someone tell me why there is more than 1 rule for a 2-way tie? You'll never get beyond head-to-head between the 2 tied teams.
 
If the game is canceled and cannot be rescheduled (ala GT - VT). For example, if BC - UMd were canceled because of a blizzard, that game would be hard to make up before the ACC Championship game.
 
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