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Of all the HC openings that have been filled or are still vacant, are we the only one where the 1st choice is a d-coordinator with zero HC experience, including the likes of Duke and SMU.
 
atlanta jacket said:
Of all the HC openings that have been filled or are still vacant, are we the only one where the 1st choice is a d-coordinator with zero HC experience, including the likes of Duke and SMU.
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no nebraska just hired their first choice, Bo Pelini
 
uhh... wrong.. Nebraska just hired Bo Pelini who was a DC AND no prior head coaching experience.

Sometimes you have to take calculated risks. Hiring people because they have head coaching experience isn't the end all be all. Many times, those hires come with a cap of sorts. As in, you know their ceiling of achievement.

You look at the teams that have taken chances on assistants with no head coaching experience... Oklahoma hired Stoops, Kansas hired Mangino, UGA hired Richt, WVU hired Rodriguez....

whoops, are all those guys in a BCS bowl this year?
 
atlanta jacket said:
That job has been open quite a while,we dont know that was the 1st choice.
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No one else was reported to have turned the job down. While that's not a 100% guarantee, I think it's pretty safe to say they got their first choice.
 
BarrelORum said:
uhh...
Sometimes you have to take calculated risks. Hiring people because they have head coaching experience isn't the end all be all. Many times, those hires come with a cap of sorts. As in, you know their ceiling of achievement.

You look at the teams that have taken chances on assistants with no head coaching experience... Oklahoma hired Stoops, Kansas hired Mangino, UGA hired Richt, WVU hired Rodriguez....

whoops, are all those guys in a BCS bowl this year?
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I don't understand the logic of taking a calculated risks of hiring a coach w/o head coaching experience.

I can think of only two logical reasons why a top 25 team would hire a HC w/o HC experience. One, the other qualifications are so overwhelming as to negate the lack of HC experience. Two, the school won't pony up with the up-front expense of hiring a candidate with HC experience.

If two, I would suggest those managing the program really don't see themselves as a top 25 program....
 
I agree with all of you guys, it isn't the end all be all. There are plenty of successful head coaches that had no head coaching experience prior to their current jobs.

Pelini was the interim HC for Nebraska a few years back when they beat Michigan State in a bowl game, so the original poster is technically correct, but I don't think one game as an interim coach are relevant.
 
71YellowJacket said:
I don't understand the logic of taking a calculated risks of hiring a coach w/o head coaching experience.

I can think of only two logical reasons why a top 25 team would hire a HC w/o HC experience. One, the other qualifications are so overwhelming as to negate the lack of HC experience. Two, the school won't pony up with the up-front expense of hiring a candidate with HC experience.

If two, I would suggest those managing the program really don't see themselves as a top 25 program....
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What part of the 4 BCS teams I mentioned did you not understand? Do you think Oklahoma and UGA see themselves as outside the top 25 teams when they made their hires?
 
BarrelORum said:
What part of the 4 BCS teams I mentioned did you not understand? Do you think
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BarrelORum said:
Oklahoma and UGA see themselves as outside the top 25 teams when they made their hires?
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BOR,

Perhaps, just perhaps their credentials were so overwhelming that they were the best candidate at the time (see “One"). Or, maybe the numbers one, two, three candidates all said no. Another possibility, could be their programs have been so well funded and the processes so institutionalized that Elmer Fudd or BOR could have been HC and they still would be in the BCS.

Just because a coach's team is in the BCS doesn't mean he is a great coach. IF he is there 6 or 7 times in 10 years, well ..........
 
71YellowJacket said:
If two, I would suggest those managing the program really don't see themselves as a top 25 program....
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How about if those managing the program see themselves as a Top 25 program, but they've been saddled with having to correct the errors of their predecesor, who got run off because he didn't think the program was Top 25?
 
clapper said:
How about if those managing the program see themselves as a Top 25 program, but they've been saddled with having to correct the errors of their predecesor, who got run off because he didn't think the program was Top 25?
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Yep, they want to be, will try to be, but know they really aren't now....
 
71YellowJacket said:
Yep, they want to be, will try to be, but know they really aren't now....
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The fact is we aren't now, and part of the reason is we always take the safe route. If we let where someone went to school, or what side of the ball he coaches on or whether he's been a HC stop us from making the best hire, we don't deserve to be a top 25 program either.
 
ncjacket said:
The fact is we aren't now, and part of the reason is we always take the safe route. If we let where someone went to school, or what side of the ball he coaches on or whether he's been a HC stop us from making the best hire, we don't deserve to be a top 25 program either.
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Thanks ncjacket for inserting some sanity into this discussion
 
This whole scenario looks like to me, GT had Zero money to offer for a HC.
 
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