Spoke to a close friend......

[refrigeratormover]

down at Tech and word is D Richards was turned down by WC to get his MBA. It might have been posted here but didn't see it.

Also, the reason you are seeing Chan interviewing for these jobs is because of what clough did to D R.

If Chan goes, inside word is Whiz would come in a heartbeat but D Rad wants to bring in a non Tech person.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of Ken's but I think he would unite the fan base at this time and that's what we need. Also, I feel he would retain the majority of the staff so we don't miss a beat.

 

[gtguy]

D Richards graduating in 3 years, playing football and being a leader on the team seems to warrant entrance into the the MBA program. If it is true that he won't be admitted, then Clough is the one who should be sent packing.

 

[ramblinwise1]

I saw something on ESPN over the bowl blitz that talked about another person who graduated in 3 years and transferred to get another degree or an advanced degree at another school without having to sit out for a year as a transfer (a football player). Apparently the NCAA rules allow football players to transfer if they graduate early (3 years).

If WC did this to DRich, I hope that he transfers somewhere and excels in his final season(s) while getting an MBA.

 

[chilidogking]

I saw something on ESPN over the bowl blitz that talked about another person who graduated in 3 years and transferred to get another degree or an advanced degree at another school without having to sit out for a year as a transfer (a football player). Apparently the NCAA rules allow football players to transfer if they graduate early (3 years).

If WC did this to DRich, I hope that he transfers somewhere and excels in his final season(s) while getting an MBA.

That's what I was thinking. He could get into Ga State easier than Tech, and it wouldn't be a problem to commute to class.

This whole situation is stupid. Aside from the fact that they didn't get him in to the MBA program, someone ought to be able to talk him into a different Masters degree at Tech. No reason he can't go back for an MBA later down the road.

 

[gtyellowjackets]

I just have to think a $25 million contract has something to do with CG wanting to interview (versus a $5 million contract at GT)...

 

[refrigeratormover]

I just have to think a $25 million contract has something to do with CG wanting to interview (versus a $5 million contract at GT)...

You'd be surprised.

 

[TechSBP]

With all due respect, let's wait until something becomes public. I spoke to an friend who has actually applied to the MBA program (did not bring up DR) about the status of their application. He pointed out that the deadline for application has not yet passed (January 15 also see http://mgt.gatech.edu/programs/mba/application.html?link=nav)
and that the admissions office
usually responds within 6-8 weeks of a completed application (http://mgt.gatech.edu/programs/mba/faqs_application.html#6).

That being said, there are a number of admissions criteria I doubt many on this board have full information about, myself included, including GMAT scores (the college has minimum requirements). It is unusual (not standard operating procedure) for a university president to interfere with admissions decisions of a graduate program and if there is going to be presidential interference it is usually not a immediate decision. Usually there is an appeal, etc. While I realize people on this board like to bash Wayne Clough because he doesn't put football above the academic standing of the Institute or because you don't believe he puts football as a high enough priority, I think its fair to state that the appeals process may not have yet run its course. Everyone disagrees with University Presidents about something. However, of all the things not likely to have an impact on a university president's tenure or sucess as defined by everyone but hard core football fans, placing sports at a high enough priority is way down the list (especially when a lot of $$$ has be diverted to athletic facility improvement). If DR is not admitted, I of course would be concerned and disappointed; but I would also recognize that I lack full information about his application and that I am not an expert in MBA admissions. Of course, I know that many on this board are. I sincerely hope that he is admitted and that John's friend simply heard incorrect information.

If we haven't heard differently by March then I'd be concerned but in my opinion...this concern is likely premature.

 

[midatlantech]

If in fact, DR didn't get accepted or won't get accepted into Tech's MBA program, then the whole Tech student athletic program at Tech is a fraud. Homer Rice would have to be squirming, since he'd have to write a new book called the The Partial Student Athlete. This would thoroughly disgust me and probably drive me away from Tech, both academically and athletically.

The fact that DR went to the press, made me suspicious at the time, so I suspect this to be true. If I was Chan, I wouldn't work under those conditions either.

If it's true, just go to Division 1AA and be done with it.

 

[LongforDodd]

D Richards graduating in 3 years, playing football and being a leader on the team seems to warrant entrance into the the MBA program. If it is true that he won't be admitted, then Clough is the one who should be sent packing.

...along with gailey.

 

[LongforDodd]

I saw something on ESPN over the bowl blitz that talked about another person who graduated in 3 years and transferred to get another degree or an advanced degree at another school without having to sit out for a year as a transfer (a football player). Apparently the NCAA rules allow football players to transfer if they graduate early (3 years).

If WC did this to DRich, I hope that he transfers somewhere and excels in his final season(s) while getting an MBA.

That may have happened but the announers went on to say that this rule was just adopted a year ago - after the transfer to which you refer.

 

[gtguy]

It was adopted a year ago. It has also been rescinded. However, it will still be valid for spring and summer graduates. GT either has no luck or bad luck.

 

[non-gineer]

If Chan goes, inside word is Whiz would come in a heartbeat but D Rad wants to bring in a non Tech person.

Pittsburgh papers reported today that Whis is expected to return from his second interview at Arizona with an offer in hand this weekend.

 

[chilidogking]

If in fact, DR didn't get accepted or won't get accepted into Tech's MBA program, then the whole Tech student athletic program at Tech is a fraud.

Huh? Wouldn't it be a fraud if admissions directors had to do anything the AA said?

One thing we all need to keep in mind is that regardless of whether or not this is true, DR has a NUMBER of options. There are plenty of other masters programs besides the MBA. More importantly, if he really wants to go to business school, he'll be better off waiting until he has professional experience anyway.

 

[ncjacket]

The point chili, is that we seem to be saying that a kid smart enough to graduate from Tech in 3 years while playing football isn't good enough for the Business School. I understand the desire for real life business experience but I also understand that exceptions are often made for valid reasons.

My thought though is that if the admissions process isn't closed yet, how would they have made a decision? If they have summarily turned down his application due to the lack of experience I think Clough is going to have a very hard time defending himself and the Institute to many, many alumns. Me included. (not that he cares I'm sure)

 

[GT1992]

ncjacket,

Their are other masters programs within the business school for which he could apply. The MBA program at Tech is apparently designed to be a post-professional program, not a straight academic one. If someone within the AA had half a brain, they would be recommending getting an MS or PhD in a specific subject (i.e. accounting, finance, etc.). To be honest, the MS is much more useful for someone with an undergrad business degree than an MBA.

 

[law_bee]

I wonder if a big $$$$ donor was trying to get special consideration if GT admissions would be SO NOBLE.

The reality is $$$ has gotten numerous unqualified candidates in Brown (ivy league), Dook, and numerous other schools. There was a big article in Wall Street Journal a few months ago detailing this.

If DR is being denied admission it is a "PETTY" slap by the ACADEMICS at GT toward the sports program. This is true hypocrisy b/c those same idiots don't hesitate to take advantage of all the fringe benefits that a successful sports program brings to a school.

I wonder how this will effect getting a quality coach if CG does leave.

Dook may have some company in the bottom of the ACC standings in the near future. The one bright spot will be that we won't have anybody complaining about going to pathetic bowls.

 

[chilidogking]

My thought though is that if the admissions process isn't closed yet, how would they have made a decision? If they have summarily turned down his application due to the lack of experience I think Clough is going to have a very hard time defending himself and the Institute to many, many alumns. Me included. (not that he cares I'm sure)

Yeah, this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. We clearly don't know the whole story. Makes me think the denial came before it was a big deal, and now there's no turning back. The most important thing here is that DR is NOT out of options, since there are plenty of MS programs he could get into.