The Beeware Principle.....

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bizzybee

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not looking too off base to me at this point. Perhaps continuing with the program the way it was going might have been better. If we have to suffer a couple of yrs. just due to major shakeup in coaching staff s--ks! There was a lot of excitement about the program after Seattle which would have aided recruiting. The young coaches that were here would have had growing pains but maybe not as bad a shock to the system as this has become. An improvement on D side of coaching may have been all that was necessary. Who knows. I am just frustrated with what I am seeing.
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We would ahve gone through this with the old staff, as well. New QB, new system. I think we are spoiled by having an outstanding QB, and now have a below average one(at the moment).
 
Nah I doubt we lose this game with O'Leary here. HE WOULD OF AT LEAST FORCED THE DC TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS and we would of gone for it on 4th and inches. Also can you say running game?
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Beesnut, out there on the field their players played better than our players and they won the game.

Love that avatar, by the way.
 
I tend to agree, Culb, BUT we did finish 9-5 last year. We weren't exactly in the Orange Bowl.
 
Sorry asoisee but as bad as this loss was it doesn't even compare to the UVA loss from last year in my mind. This loss was in the same ballpark as the Clemson loss from last year.

For the first time this season you could say that the defense let us down. What win last year did the Defense carry us like they had to against BYU and UNC?

I disagree that our DB play would have improved this year if we had kept Roof. Tenuta has a reputation of developing good DBs and all of a sudden we seem to have found some good DBS. Even the safetys are playing better than last year.
 
ahso, I agree with you on just about everything. I did not know that GO interfered with Roof. If so, Roof would have been OK here. I still think that CG's delay to get started here w/recruiting and all sorta put a bad taste in my mouth to begin with. You are right about we'll never know what would have happened. Recruiting would have been somewhat better, however. There just was so much excitement that it would have been nice to at least give them a shot and if they couldn't do it, then everyone would have agreed to move on. Now we will never know.

Hope a yr. from now we will be saying how silly we were to worry. But I'm worried.
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culb, if GG was running the O with the addition of Hollings not hurt, we would be pretty happy I think. We would have been far enough ahead at UNC that Hollings probably would not have come back in after the tweak. IMO
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What I think is.......Godsey graduated........Mac is OL coach at UT.....O'leary is DL coach in NFL...Fridge is head coach at Maryland.......Kelly is coaching at Stanford.

The biggest difference this year in the recent years past is the QB play. We haven't gotten production there.

We've had problems with dropsies in the past, BTW.

To win in major college football the qb is going to have to make plays. In a close game he's going to have to ride the team on his shoulders for a win. Thus far it hasn't happened this year.

All this talk about talent and "we're the better team" doesn't mean anything. The better team is the team that makes plays. I don't care how good your athletes are. The better team wins as team by making plays. Wake Forrest was the better team Sat. They executed and beat us.

Some GT fans are all high and mighty that we should never lose to Wake or Duke. We'll guess what gang. We haven't arrived. We never have arrived. We've never been to the point where we can just show up and win. Give Wake some credit. They lined up and beat us. Do I like it? Heak no.

All this talk about getting rid of coaches is just so premature. We're right in the middle of a season. We right at the half way point!

Let's do what we need to do to win. Some of you have given up on the season. If that's what you want to do, well fine. I haven't given up on my team and the season.

For those of you that have given up on the Jackets. Please go do something contructive. Maybe you can do some yard work or something. I don't know.
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I haven't given up but I fully expect CG to be stubborn on the QB situation and for BOB to contiune to call offense that don't work. I will do some yard work this weekend though
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If we go up to Maryland and have another poor showing then yes, I will continue to do yard work as it is more productive and healthy then watching the wheels come off this team.

I truly hope that CG rights the ship. Suggs is not a GT QB. He is an adequate backup for a QB. Tenuta deserves a lot of the blame for this loss. They beat him last year running the same crap. Did he not have some film???

In summary... Suggs needs to be benched, Tenuta needs to watch more film, BOB needs to do whatever it takes to get these kids ready to play in this offense.
 
Bellyseries,

you have had some genius comments through all this since Sat. No, I'm not being sarcastic. Real wisdom!

Go Jackets!
 
Thanks belly... I know we got outplayed but supposedly we have the better talent. Guess we are a paper tiger
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Culb, I hope u r right - that the qb slot is the problem. There is just this weird feeling. Perhaps we just don't trust the coaches yet and do not know yet whether they know what to do. I think that the trust/confidence factor just has not been established yet.
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Trying to be honest and make an honest assessment of this discussion.

I have never been a great fan of O'leary, but was extremely confident in the ability of Friegden. I see no way to say, "what if", with either or both of O'Leary and Friegden at the controls of this years team. Both are gone by their own accord, so that part is history.

I will give my opinion of the alternate scenario of Mac being the head coach, O'Brien OC, and Roof DC, and all of last year's assistants remaining.

I don't think our offense would be any different, because I think O'Brien would have the same type of performance with Mac as head coach, thus no improvement in the offense.

I do think the defense would be better this year under Roof, because he would have an experienced defense back to work with, plus he could implement his own strategy without having to be saddled with O'Leary's defensive strategy. I have watched Duke on TV, and their defense seems to be aggressive and playing better under Roof.

The receivers seem to be out of sync with the quarterback this year as opposed to last year. They are also dropping more passes. Maybe Kelley would have made a difference in the passing game this year, maybe not.

After saying all of this, I would think we would have beaten Vanderbilt and Connecticutt, a toss-up with Clemson at their place. I still think we would have beaten a weak BYU, a weak North Carolina, and would have beaten Wake Forest at home.

We could possibly be 5-1 at this point under the old staff. It is conceivable, we could have beaten Clemson with a better defense under Roof. Even thought Braine made the best decision a person could make with the candidacy between Gailey and Mac, I will concede that our record may have been better at this point than with the present staff.

It is possible Gailey could become the better hire over the long run, but he will have to get on the ball and make some gutsy decisions, or this season will become a total loss with a bad influence on the upcoming recruiting season.

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I put this thought up in another thread:

What if LAST year was Godsey's junior year, and this year was his senior year? Do you think we'd be in the offensive bind we are in now?

I think the answer is NO WAY.

What do you guys think?
 
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