The rest of the ACC has left us behind

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It looks like the rest of the ACC has upped its game while we're about the same. This is the best the conference has ever been and it reflects on our record. The TO offense can still be effective but at the expense of eroding our talent base.

What's better? Running a system best only used if you are seriously outmanned by your opponents at the expense of recruiting or going with a more popular system with recruits but gives you less of an edge on your opponents?

A lot of people claim there's no difference in recruiting between Gailey and PJ (conveniently saying throw out 2007), but I see no NFL talent on this team vs our traditional 2 or 3 NFL players produced each year. PJ leaks talent each year while everyone of our conference mates gets better.

On the other hand, Navy is much better than us with lesser players. If we performed like navy I'd be happy. PJ doesn't see like same coach as a few years ago.
 
We will not have one all conference player this year on offense or defense. I think our players fight hard and the coaches put them in a position to win, but at some point you've got to have talent. Other than #28 and #26 on offense, there's not much there.

On defense this is an acute problem..particularly with the almost total lack of a pass rush. We had D Morgan at DE and Attouchou (sp) at LB, and both of those guys made a huge difference. We have no one who can pressure the QB..and you saw that today. We made an avg QB look like a world beater.
 
OP is a little dramatic. We're average in the ACC in terms of talent and recruiting, same as we've been since I was born. We've just been spoiled by above average coaching recently.

Also, Navy is not "much better than us", or even as good as us. Air Force just beat them by 2 TD's last week, for God's sake. Can we not freak out every time they have a good game?

There is probably some truth to our scheme limiting our ability to get top recruits, but how many elite recruits have we ever signed, especially since Flunkgate? Hell, we haven't signed a single 5 star since Rivals started rating players in 2002.
 
Our opponents have upped their coaches. CPJ's offense isn't getting it done. If your definition of success at GT is top 25 finish and/or competing for the coastal then expect what you have seen the past two seasons to be the new norm.
 
I don't give up that easy (else why would I be a GT fan of 45+ years), so will see about that in the coming weeks.

I expected to be 4-2 at this point in the season and to be 7-4 going into Athens. So at 3-3, we need to go 4-1 over the next 5 games to reach that threshold.

GSU, Duke, UVA better be wins. A split with UNC and VPI and we will be where I expected us to be. At this point UGA is a winnable game so, at least for now, I'm holding out for an 8-4 season and a decent, if not spectacular, bowl game.
 
This one sentence is very telling of how far we've slipped in the past year and a half. We can't look past Southern, Duke or UVA anymore.
Duke beat us in our best season in almost 30 years, and Georgia Southern almost did. This is nothing new.
 
I don't give up that easy (else why would I be a GT fan of 45+ years), so will see about that in the coming weeks.

I expected to be 4-2 at this point in the season and to be 7-4 going into Athens. So at 3-3, we need to go 4-1 over the next 5 games to reach that threshold.

GSU, Duke, UVA better be wins. A split with UNC and VPI and we will be where I expected us to be. At this point UGA is a winnable game so, at least for now, I'm holding out for an 8-4 season and a decent, if not spectacular, bowl game.
My sentiments exactly.
 
I thought UGAg was winnable this season, but now I doubt it. When UGAg seems to suck, we compound it by sucking worse.

We are not a good football team. We have no Laskey or Days or Smelter or Waller to make our offense look good.
 
The anti-Johnson people like to say that you can't use one year (2014) to defend him, but many of those same people use the last year and a half against him. If one year is too small a sample size, I don't think 1.5 years is large enough -- at least not to be able to affirmatively say that the rest of the league has "left us behind." There are ebbs and flows. Every few years people talk about Northwestern and their coach on a year when we're mediocre and they look pretty good. People talk about Stanford, but Stanford doesn't look very good right now. Now it's envy of the many teams in the conference having better seasons than us, even though very few of them have peaks in recent years as high as we've had.
 
I thought UGAg was winnable this season, but now I doubt it. When UGAg seems to suck, we compound it by sucking worse.

We are not a good football team. We have no Laskey or Days or Smelter or Waller to make our offense look good.

This is the bane of every Tech fan. It seems like every year UGA seems to be down, we seem to be down even further.
 
yep==LAST week sports headline was that ACC meets SEC with # of teams in top 25.They are going up ,we are going down.
 
The anti-Johnson people like to say that you can't use one year (2014) to defend him, but many of those same people use the last year and a half against him. If one year is too small a sample size, I don't think 1.5 years is large enough -- at least not to be able to affirmatively say that the rest of the league has "left us behind." There are ebbs and flows. Every few years people talk about Northwestern and their coach on a year when we're mediocre and they look pretty good. People talk about Stanford, but Stanford doesn't look very good right now. Now it's envy of the many teams in the conference having better seasons than us, even though very few of them have peaks in recent years as high as we've had.
While you ignore the last year and a half and previous four years? Dumb post. The problems have been going on for quite a while.
 
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