MoverofFridge2
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Over the past 5 or 6 weeks I have read on THIS board the opinions and thought processes on the Triple Option coming to The Flats.
FWIW I thought I would throw in my two cents worth. Having spent over 20 years playing and coaching football I have seen just about every offense imaginable. The majority of my coaching days were spent on the defensive side of the ball even as a head high school football coach.
I can tell you from experience the triple option drives defensive coaches crazy to a certain degree. As a rule you only see this offense 1 to 3 times a year if you are lucky and a lot of teams see it even less. Also, you generally only have a week to prepare for this offense. This is where, as you all know, the craziness comes about.
The thing that can frustrate coaches in preparing to defense this offense is the fact that, by formation, you can make the defense balance up. The triple option is a variance of the wishbone which was hugely successful in BIGTIME programs years ago. Someone, I do not know who, came in and simply moved the halfbacks from the backfield to the slots off the tackles heels. This may not sound very big, but if you can make a defense balance up to your formation you tend to have the advantage with the QB giving you the opportunity to out flank the defense. Second, a lot of defenses will try to outflank you to the wide side of the field due to the fact they "think" you can only run to the wide side and not to the short side. I KNOW from experience you will get your hiny burnt using this philosophy!
In the triple option you can use several variances of motion with a slot to gain an advantage, BUT if the defense over adjusts, more time than not, you can hurt them back to the weak side because a lot of people will adjust to motion by running someone across the formation and/or sliding the defense to the motion back.
The triple option forces defenses to play assignment football. I am not saying that doesn't happen in todays offenses, but you BETTER play assignment football to the triple option or you will get your hiny smoked. I remember sitting in on a clinic one time in the late 80's with the defensive coordinator from Southern Cal. At that time we were seeing some wishbone at Lakeland High where I was coaching. Our staff was there and the main point we asked was how to defend. The college coach said, "you damn sure better play assignment football or you are going to get your ass kicked!" He aslo said you better put two men on the fullback or he will kick your ass by himself because you are focusing to much on what can happen to you on the corners. The very next year we were smooked in the playoffs by Sarasota Riverview High School 48-3 I think it was by a team whihc ran the wishbone. And, to beat all the outside didn't beat us, it was the fullback who ran for over 200 that night on us. Our defense had 6 or 7 shut outs that year prior to that game. It wasn't a 1 night fluke either, it was the real deal that got our asses handed to us.
I say all this to say, I believe this offense can be successful for GT football. The offense has progressed over the years with new wrinkles and ideas to make it more formidable IMO. I do say you have to throw the ball to keep defenses on their heels obviously. But, I think CPJ pass offfense will be much more efficient than we have seen over the past few years.
Just another opinion. Some of what has already been stated and some that has not.
FWIW I thought I would throw in my two cents worth. Having spent over 20 years playing and coaching football I have seen just about every offense imaginable. The majority of my coaching days were spent on the defensive side of the ball even as a head high school football coach.
I can tell you from experience the triple option drives defensive coaches crazy to a certain degree. As a rule you only see this offense 1 to 3 times a year if you are lucky and a lot of teams see it even less. Also, you generally only have a week to prepare for this offense. This is where, as you all know, the craziness comes about.
The thing that can frustrate coaches in preparing to defense this offense is the fact that, by formation, you can make the defense balance up. The triple option is a variance of the wishbone which was hugely successful in BIGTIME programs years ago. Someone, I do not know who, came in and simply moved the halfbacks from the backfield to the slots off the tackles heels. This may not sound very big, but if you can make a defense balance up to your formation you tend to have the advantage with the QB giving you the opportunity to out flank the defense. Second, a lot of defenses will try to outflank you to the wide side of the field due to the fact they "think" you can only run to the wide side and not to the short side. I KNOW from experience you will get your hiny burnt using this philosophy!
In the triple option you can use several variances of motion with a slot to gain an advantage, BUT if the defense over adjusts, more time than not, you can hurt them back to the weak side because a lot of people will adjust to motion by running someone across the formation and/or sliding the defense to the motion back.
The triple option forces defenses to play assignment football. I am not saying that doesn't happen in todays offenses, but you BETTER play assignment football to the triple option or you will get your hiny smoked. I remember sitting in on a clinic one time in the late 80's with the defensive coordinator from Southern Cal. At that time we were seeing some wishbone at Lakeland High where I was coaching. Our staff was there and the main point we asked was how to defend. The college coach said, "you damn sure better play assignment football or you are going to get your ass kicked!" He aslo said you better put two men on the fullback or he will kick your ass by himself because you are focusing to much on what can happen to you on the corners. The very next year we were smooked in the playoffs by Sarasota Riverview High School 48-3 I think it was by a team whihc ran the wishbone. And, to beat all the outside didn't beat us, it was the fullback who ran for over 200 that night on us. Our defense had 6 or 7 shut outs that year prior to that game. It wasn't a 1 night fluke either, it was the real deal that got our asses handed to us.
I say all this to say, I believe this offense can be successful for GT football. The offense has progressed over the years with new wrinkles and ideas to make it more formidable IMO. I do say you have to throw the ball to keep defenses on their heels obviously. But, I think CPJ pass offfense will be much more efficient than we have seen over the past few years.
Just another opinion. Some of what has already been stated and some that has not.
the forward pass. I seem to remember a time when offenses only passed when they needed to.
