Tressel Emails

If NCAA was to really investigate this and acquired Tressel's emails, I wonder how much dirty laundry would emerge. Unbelievable..
 
cyptomcat said:
If NCAA was to really investigate this and acquired Tressel's emails, I wonder how much dirty laundry would emerge. Unbelievable..
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If he has half a brain cell he'd keep confidential stuff out of emails, especially to/from his osu.edu email address. Now of course, there are no guarantees that he's not that dumb.
 
Reports that emails are from Cicero, a lawyer who was a Buckeye athlete:
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/03/09/tressel-attorney-ncaa-violations.html

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By the content of the e-mails, it was clear that the guy was a lawyer. It was also clear that he had interviewed the guy being charged. From these facts, and now the confirmation that he's a criminal defense attorney, it certainly appears that he breached attorney-client privilege. I suspect that his law license will be gone.
 
AE 87 said:
By the content of the e-mails, it was clear that the guy was a lawyer. It was also clear that he had interviewed the guy being charged. From these facts, and now the confirmation that he's a criminal defense attorney, it certainly appears that he breached attorney-client privilege. I suspect that his law license will be gone.
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meh, he wouldn't be that worried about such things

In 1997, the Ohio Supreme Court suspended Cicero's law license for one year, following a highly publicized scandal in Franklin County Common Pleas Court. Cicero was found to have engaged in conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice and of failing to maintain a respectful attitude toward the courts. [he was having sex with the judge, article has more on it]

In 2002, a mistrial was declared in a death-penalty case because prosecutors planned to call Cicero as a witness in the case against his client.

Days later, he was accused of striking a different client during a courtroom argument, prompting another mistrial. Cicero denied hitting his client.
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AE 87 said:
By the content of the e-mails, it was clear that the guy was a lawyer. It was also clear that he had interviewed the guy being charged. From these facts, and now the confirmation that he's a criminal defense attorney, it certainly appears that he breached attorney-client privilege. I suspect that his law license will be gone.
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I don't think its quite that cut and dry for violating attorney-client privilege. Reading the article about him, however, makes me believe in this specific case (if it was him) he'll probably have his license revoked. It was already suspended once and it seems like he's got a bunch of stuff in his file.

There are also some exceptions to when you can breach. I don't know Ohio law at all, but some of those exceptions generally speaking tie into the health/wellness of others. Could make a difference that he was going to Tressel and not any authorities (if he was really concerned, don't you think he'd see the police?).

I think it's also a question of whether Rife really was his client. If it's drug trafficking, there are probably tons of defendants. Each one is probably going to need his/her own counsel bc of conflicts. I don't know if its clear that they are atty/client
 
This is a hell of a lot shadier than I thought. The mainstream media hasn't done this story justice IMHO. Buckeye fan/lawyer feeding "confidential" info from a drug dealer case to a Coach who keeps it quiet and then denies having known about it for months while his star players win him 12 games? There's some seriously sketchy parts in there:

"I would also make sure you tell ___ and ___ (and whoever else) NOT to call him on his cell phone too because if he gets arrested, and that seems to be the plan, we dont want their phone numbers in his cell phone that the government will trace. He really is a drug dealer. And I know ___ has his phone number and has called him."

How in the hell is he still employed?
 
This is colossal fail. A failossus. That is the most retarded lawyer I have ever seen that wasn't sitting in Nigeria waiting for a Western Union money transfer. It seriously reads like a scam email. I'm pretty sure he's just caused at least one mistrial. God forbid there is an investigation into all of his correspondences and he's done this regularly.

jt is just being as slimy as you need to be to run one of the premier football schools in the country, but I hope he gets the axe too.
 
A Hypothetical Background Story:
A drug dealer gives some stuff to tOSU football players at a party because they're great and everybody's giving them stuff. Then he wants to get paid. They agree to auction off their championship rings and autographed cleets because the drug dealer has them over the barrel and tells them he's gonna kill them if they don't. When Tressel says he was scared for the kids on his team, he may have had reason. He didn't report the NCAA violations and the associations of his students with a drug dealer because he feared either option would get them associated with law-enforcement in a way that would damage their future.

... He then uses this to convince them to come back to tOSU. Oh, well, I thought I could defend him.
 
gtrower said:
The mainstream media hasn't done this story justice IMHO.
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Yes, this part does not make sense at all. ESPN was all over Cam Newton and every single report on Newton. They have not even shown the emails yet. They haven't emphasized how the star players were in business with someone involved in drugs.

One explanation I have seen is that yahoo broke the news and ESPN is jealous. I don't remember who broke news on Newton, it might also been yahoo. The better explanation is probably that Newton was the hottest player and it was during the season, whereas this is now off-season and less interest into football.
 
cyptomcat said:
Yes, this part does not make sense at all. ESPN was all over Cam Newton and every single report on Newton. They have not even shown the emails yet. They haven't emphasized how the star players were in business with someone involved in drugs.

One explanation I have seen is that yahoo broke the news and ESPN is jealous. I don't remember who broke news on Newton, it might also been yahoo. The better explanation is probably that Newton was the hottest player and it was during the season, whereas this is now off-season and less interest into football.
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Remember when ESPN biasedly defended the actions of Craig James and his son during the Texas Tech/Leach firing? Ok... now consider this....

Kirk Herbstreit.
 
BarrelORum said:
Remember when ESPN biasedly defended the actions of Craig James and his son during the Texas Tech/Leach firing? Ok... now consider this....

Kirk Herbstreit.
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good point!

I just thought their contract with SEC would be a bigger factor, but of course 'connections' rule it all.
 
BarrelORum said:
Remember when ESPN biasedly defended the actions of the lowlife cheater Craig James and his whiney little bitch of a son during the Texas Tech/Leach firing? Ok... now consider this....

Kirk Herbstreit is a Mangina and blind OSU homer.
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FIFY

Where was ESPN during the Roid years in Baseball, where were they on Barry Bonds? They were too busy licking his ass to notice that his biceps were bigger at 40 than his thighs were at 25. Where were they on anything important? ESPN sucks, I can't even bring myself to watch SportsCenter anymore.
 
How about this:

Tressel gets an email from some guy who says he has info on players. Tressel probably would rather his complaince officers deal with it. Asks players up front, is this going on, they say no...wtf do you do now? It comes down to a matter of trust. Tressel trusts his players, to a fault.

Remember good RA's in school? I do, because I considered myself one. I didn't go snooping around for ****. If someone said something I alerted myself to it and asked if the resident was doing something. If they said no, what more should I have done? I also went to bed early, because what I didn't see, I couldn't act on. What do you want Tressel to be a private ****ing investigator??? I mean seriously...
 
GTCrew4b said:
Tressel gets an email from some guy who says he has info on players. Tressel probably would rather his complaince officers deal with it. Asks players up front, is this going on, they say no...wtf do you do now? It comes down to a matter of trust. Tressel trusts his players, to a fault.
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Is this even serious? Tressel later emailed Cicero asking which players he shouldn't give rings to so that they won't take it to the drug dealer. Yeah he believed his players my ass..

First we found how many Auburn homers we have on board, now we get to find how many Ohio State homers we have..
 
cyptomcat said:
Is this even serious? Tressel later emailed Cicero asking which players he shouldn't give rings to so that they won't take it to the drug dealer. Yeah he believed his players my ass..

First we found how many Auburn homers we have on board, now we get to find how many Ohio State homers we have..
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I didn't see that response at first.

I dunno, I still put to you the question, what should he have done, if he asks the players and they say they don't know what he's talking about...
 
GTCrew4b said:
I didn't see that response at first.

I dunno, I still put to you the question, what should he have done, if he asks the players and they say they don't know what he's talking about...
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When did they say that? Link?
 
sorry no links, I guess it couldn't have happened then...

You're right the most likely situation here, is that Tressel knew about this situation, knew it was a blatant rules violation, knew which players were involved, and they all conspired against the NCAA hoping not to get caught, then when they did, Tressel comes out publicly to save his own skin, from this insidious plot which totals ~$5,000 changing hands because he's just that evil.

Here is my guess as to what happened:

Tressel gets these emails, doesn't know what to do at first, sends to compliance people.
Tressel talks to players and asks if they know about this. They say no.
Tressel asks to see their Championship rings. Players say they can't find them and they must have lost them or something.
Tressel "believes" them. Asks the guy for names so that the players don't get their trophies this year.
 
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