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Rambling Wreck now has an updated roster for football with all freshmen listed. Most surprising for me is that Donley listed at 218 with Bebe listed at 220.
Donley has always appeared thin while Bebe looked put together. If weights are accurate, it is great. Both are 6' 4" Also, we now have 6 OL 300 or more plus Gardner at 298.
 
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gtguy said:
Rambling Wreck now has an updated roster for football with all freshmen listed. Most surprising for me is that Donley listed at 218 with Bebe listed at 220.
Donley has always appeared thin while Bebe looked put together. If weights are accurate, it is great. Both are 6' 4"
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I also noticed that Jason Peters is now 6-4, 270....he was 6-3, 265 out of high school.

A lot of our returning players lost 5-10 lbs...Matt Rhodes, Darrell Robertson, Robert Hall, etc.
 
Did I completely miss this along the way - Lance Walls (Logan's bro that was at BYU) is on the roster? I knew he had a bro at BYU but I don't recall hearing that he was going to transfer to GT.
 
hiveredtech said:
I also noticed that Jason Peters is now 6-4, 270....he was 6-3, 265 out of high school.

A lot of our returning players lost 5-10 lbs...Matt Rhodes, Darrell Robertson, Robert Hall, etc.
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If you believe these weights that they give, you DON'T follow football very closely.

Most of these weights are the same they were listed at coming out of high school.

Inside sources give a much different picture. For instance, Ben Anderson's dad said that Ben was at 280 back at the time of spring practice.....and getting bigger every day.

At about that same time, Michael Johnson's dad said that Mike was at 260. Do you think he has stopped growing?

Whoever puts together these roster heights and weights, makes very LITTLE effort to make them accurate.

Of course, weights will vary much more than heights during 4 or 5 years of maturing in college.

Nevertheless, heights are usually mis-stated by 1 to 2 inches........usually on the high side.

Bottom line, roster makers couldn't care less whether fans have accurate data on these players.

Consequently, if you want it you have to go to inside sources to get it.
 
Leatherjacket said:
If you believe these weights that they give, you DON'T follow football very closely.
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First of all, that is a pretty obnoxious comment..and misguided.

Secondly, a GT football coach told me that these measurables...particularly for the younger kids are dead-on.

In the past this was not always the case, Joe Hamilton had two inches added to his 5-9 frame. About that same time the staff listed Jesse Tarplin at 6-3 and went in to measure 6-2 at the NFL combine...Charlie Rogers was listed at 5-10 then went to the NFL combine and shrank 1 inch to 5-9.

He also added that the lineman in particular can fluctuate 10 lbs. easily depending on when they weight them around workouts, season, etc. The current staff does not play around with them so much...probably because Gailey takes a more NFL style "it is what it is" approach. Heck...they even went to the trouble of changing Durant Brooks from 198 lbs. to 202 lbs.

Example is KMike. We had every reason to make him 6-2, 230 last year...but we listed him at 6-0, 225. At the NFL combine he measured 6-0 and 228.

Matter of fact, our heights were dead on. The weights fluctuate more with these kids, particularly the big ones, between fall prior to the college season and the spring NFL combine. You will see they are pretty darn accurate.

KMike GT Fall 2006- 6-0, 224
KMike NFL Spring 2007- 6-0, 228

Calvin Johnson GT Fall 2006- 6-5, 235
Calvin Johnson NFL Spring 2007- 6-5, 239

George Cooper GT Fall 2006- 6-5, 260
George Cooper NFL Spring 2007- 6-5, 268

Mike Matthews GT Fall 2006- 6-4, 270
Mike Matthews NFL Spring 2007- 6-4, 260

Mansfield Wrotto GT Fall 2006- 6-3, 310
Mansfield Wrotto NFL Spring 2007- 6-3, 317

Reggie Ball GT Fall 2006- 5-11, 195
Reggie Ball NFL Spring 2007- 5-11, 203

That being said...most high schools and self-reported high school numbers are off by up to two inches and 20 lbs....and don't even start talking about forty times!
 
ContactBuzz said:
Did I completely miss this along the way - Lance Walls (Logan's bro that was at BYU) is on the roster? I knew he had a bro at BYU but I don't recall hearing that he was going to transfer to GT.
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Lance was in spring practice.
 
Red, if you believe those roster weights are accurate, I think you're naive'.......be that as it may.

I noticed that you neglected to mention that Joe Anoia weighed in at 303 for the pros....quite a bit more than he was listed at Tech.
 
More is the key word.

Nobody says a guy weighs less. Coaches exagerate on the high side, not the low side.

Gailey tells things like it is - even at his own detriment. We already have proof that the last coach was willing to say whatever he needed to say to get what he wanted.

It's a different world now at GT. There are and were both good and bad parts of each regime, but I don't think Joe Anoai eating a ton while training like a beast between the end of one season and draft day is any sign of false representation.

The thinner guys have a much more consistent weight, but it's very easy for the big boys to lose or gain 10 pounds in a few days - much less a month or two.
 
Leatherjacket said:
Red, if you believe those roster weights are accurate, I think you're naive'.......be that as it may.

I noticed that you neglected to mention that Joe Anoia weighed in at 303 for the pros....quite a bit more than he was listed at Tech.
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I "neglected to mention" Anoai on purpose because he had health issues requiring special medication...and I will not get into any specifics on this board...just pray for him.

The NFL combine measurements next to the GT roster from 7 months prior prove my point.

It was the previous staff that added 1-2 inches to everyone.
 
hiveredtech said:
I "neglected to mention" Anoai on purpose because he had health issues requiring special medication...and I will not get into any specifics on this board...just pray for him.
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Hope it is nothing too serious. He was great on our d-line; I will always remember his hit on that pussy Quinn last year against ND.
 
Re: Do u get the feeling

GT Ace said:
Osahon Tongo has grown out of the MLB position & into the DE-DT position? I really was thinking that Tongo would be the odds on choice to succeed Wheeler @ MLB, but now I'm feeling that he will step in @ DE in '08.
Does anyone know where Osahon will be practicing next week?
Here's the roster, btw.

http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/geot-m-footbl-mtt.html
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He is still a LB. Of course, we will see how much his mobility has changed, if any, since the knee injury. The mental aspect of returning from that is as big, if not bigger, than the physical.
 
There are plenty of 240+ lb LBs around.Sometimes it is worth losing the speed to be big.-maybe not in Tenutas DEf,but somewhere
 
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