vatech repeat acc champs?

DeRRtyTree

DeRRtyTree

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they have beaten GT and UNC, who seemed to be the other favorites and the rest of their schedule just doesnt look very scary

@BC - bc has no passing
@FSU - no offense to speak of
Maryland - home game, i think maryland may still only have 1 loss entering this game, and i think they may loose this game if they loose any...but thats only 1 loss
@Miami - miami shows me a different team each week and we really wont know what to expect
duke - win...
uva - win...

unc and gt need vatech to loose twice to have a chance, and i imagine the winner of unc gt will be the runner up.

vtech is not that good...but somehow they just win and im not saying i like it, but i have a feeling they will continue down this path and probably win the acc and embarass us in a bowl game yet again...
 
Yeah, VT has lucked out this year.

I think they lose 2 of BC, FSU, or Miami.
 
DeRRtyTree said:
unc and gt need vatech to loose twice to have a chance, and i imagine the winner of unc gt will be the runner up.
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Ok, since this keeps being posted, I dug up the actual rules rather than just pointing out we only need VPI to lose once.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082105aad.html


Three (or More) Team Tie
(Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used)
  • 1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams
  • 2. Records of the tied teams within the division.

    3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last.

    4. Overall record for non-divisional teams.

    5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams.

    6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division.

    7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game.

    8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw.
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So, for starters, we need to beat the team that beats VPI, and we need that team to also only have one loss. This is of course contingent on us winning out in the ACC.
 
Does anyone else not understand this aura of invincibility around VTech on this board? They are probably two phantom "helmet to helmet" penalties in the 4th quarter away from already having 3 losses!
 
ArkyTech said:
Does anyone else not understand this aura of invincibility around VTech on this board? They are probably two phantom "helmet to helmet" penalties in the 4th quarter away from already having 3 losses!
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I'm not sure about the board, but I'm pretty sure that the ACC has already chosen them as the team that will lead the conference to the promisedland. Don't believe me? Reference ACC officiating in games involving VPI.
 
GTWannaBee said:
Ok, since this keeps being posted, I dug up the actual rules rather than just pointing out we only need VPI to lose once.

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082105aad.html




So, for starters, we need to beat the team that beats VPI, and we need that team to also only have one loss. This is of course contingent on us winning out in the ACC.
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The only team left that fits that criteria is Duke. So if we beat them and then we both win out in the ACC, then yes, it would be a three way tie. Other than that, though, we need VPI to lose twice.
 
VPI is not a good team, they're lucky. And they haven't shown an ability to get better from week to week. Miami should give them trouble. After this weekend, we'll see if Duke is for real. I can't imagine them going without at least one loss unless the conspiracy continues.

They beat us and UNC, but it wasn't play calling or strategy that won either of those games. It was luck. Luck that ACC refs are morons and luck that UNC's starter twisted his ankle.
 
Allen Koholic said:
VPI is not a good team, they're lucky. And they haven't shown an ability to get better from week to week. Miami should give them trouble. After this weekend, we'll see if Duke is for real. I can't imagine them going without at least one loss unless the conspiracy continues.

They beat us and UNC, but it wasn't play calling or strategy that won either of those games. It was luck. Luck that ACC refs are morons and luck that UNC's starter twisted his ankle.
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By the time Miami plays VPI, they will have quit. They are a good young team but are still lacking in the "heart" area.

But we really should just forget about this issue. For one reason, it just isn't going to happen that VPI loses two. We had our chance.

But the better reason is that no matter what, we have to win out and if we do win out, then we'll be in a better BCS bowl. We'd likely play SEC Champ or #2 in the Sugar Bowl as opposed to Big East Champ in the Orange Bowl.

So let's just focus on that which we can control and move on. Duke is going to be a problem for us tomorrow.
 
Here's what I don't get.

If we are entertaining the idea that there is a reasonable chance that Duke might beat us (not everyone shares this opinion I realize) then why is it any less likely that Duke can knock off VT?

This race is NOT over. We have simply relinquished control over it.

It kind of makes me sick to think about losing to VT. Bebe out, Taylor's head down, every single stinkin' thing that could have helped went their way.

They are going to run out of luck before they run out of season and we will be back in business when they do. And they will.

Patience, grasshopper.
 
ArkyTech said:
Does anyone else not understand this aura of invincibility around VTech on this board? They are probably two phantom "helmet to helmet" penalties in the 4th quarter away from already having 3 losses!
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This is so stoopid. First your facts a wrong. Second, if you're going to play that game, GT is also a questionable safety from being 2-2.
 
Yukonwreck said:
Not possible. One loss is remote; two ? no way.:laugher:
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I am just amazed that after all the major upsets that we see week in and week out in college football, and I'm talking REAL UPSETS (Oregon St/USC, Ole Miss/UF, Michigan/App St to name the first three that come to mind) especially in the past few years, there are actually people who would say that it is "not possible" for a team only as good as Vagina Tech (not that good) to lose to a team only as bad as FSU, Miami, or Boston College (not that bad).

Seriously. This is NOT POSSIBLE?

I think Va Tech could even lose to Duke. I'm not betting on it, but it's not impossible. Virginia? Well, yes, that seems damn near impossible.
 
Nobody stands out in the Coastal. For that matter nobody stands out in the entire ACC. Until one or two teams do stand out then I'm of the mindset that anybody in this league can be beaten by anybody else --with exception to UVA and maybe NC State and Duke.

But other than that, so far, what really separates Clemson, BC, FSU, Maryland, Wake, GT, VT, Miami, UNC? I see GT, UNC and Maryland on the rise, VT has already defeated two of the three teams it needs to worry about in the Coastal, Clemson and maybe Wake are disappointing, maybe BC is down, Miami and FSU --who knows.
 
midatlantech said:
But the better reason is that no matter what, we have to win out and if we do win out, then we'll be in a better BCS bowl. We'd likely play SEC Champ or #2 in the Sugar Bowl as opposed to Big East Champ in the Orange Bowl.
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Do you think so? I believe that there are no restrictions in who a BCS bowl takes for an at-large(other than a qualifying BCS buster), right? So it's tough for me to envision a BCS bowl picking us when there are much better traveling fanbases available. See Missouri and Kansas last year...Missouri obviously deserved the bid, but Kansas got it anyway. Or see Notre Dame this year if they manage to meet the minimum requirements for an at large bid.
 
refrigeratormover said:
I'll bet right now if nd wins 9 they get an at large.
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Speaking of Notre Dame and "at large":

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its just that vatech, for whatever reason and I dont know why, every year seems to SOMEHOW pull out wins that shouldnt be wins for them and its very annoying.
 
kirbee said:
This is so stoopid. First your facts a wrong. Second, if you're going to play that game, GT is also a questionable safety from being 2-2.
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VT is the luckiest team in the world. Other than the blocked punt. However ECU dominated them yet up till the punt every break seemed to fall to VT. They have had major breaks in all the other games and no serious injuries (while key players for their opponents are less than 100%).
 
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