Very embarassing. New Bowl projections.

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College Football News updates their Bowl projections each week. This week it's GT barely alive to be a tossup for the 6th (& last) ACC Bowl in Seattle; WF or GT. Good grief that's terrible to be a 'maybe' for 6th spot in the ACC, perception wise. New Bowl projections.
Meanwhile Georgia is picked for the Nat'l Champ game in the Fiesta Bowl. Wasn't it just season before last that Ga Tech was putting a statement game on the Dogs, in Athens, to wrap up a 3 straight games winning era? Mercy, what has happened? Has UGa finally hired the coach to put them back on the nat'l map? Have we?
 
One piece of advice. Don't worry about what UGA does or does not do. It is completely out of control.
 
Richt has done nothing special. They have the opportunity to go very far with a very mediocre team because the SEC is completely down this season.

That said, a good coach would take UGA to 12-0 this season with that schedule. Richt will lose a couple. My $0.02.

People writing Tech off this early will be sorry. We will surprise some teams. A very good chance one of those is UGA.

 
UGAg will not go undefeated. Heck even if they do they have no chance of beating Miami or VT who will be representing the other side.
 
realistically, the chances of uGag going undefeated are the same as ours actually getting a bowl invite. While we are on the subject, why the heck are you guys so obsessed with what uGag does? Is it going to make our season more tolerable if uGag stumbles? That is a losers philosophy. "Losing doesn't hurt as much because our enemy is losing also".. You guys are standing on the deck of the titanic admiring icebergs. Focus on GT and quit worrying about uGag.
 
Originally posted by bizzybee:
My answers to your last 2 questions: yes and no
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">bizzybee... I would have hate to seen you in '94 when we were 1 - 10. For crying out loud, we are 4 - 2 and this is a transition year with several of our top players injured.

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If we win more games than we lose and go to a bowl,
ANY BOWL, I'll be proud of this team.

The new staff, new QB, injuries on both sides of
the ball, and improvement in the ACC all point
to a tough battle the rest of the season.
 
Originally posted by coldbeer:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Originally posted by bizzybee:
My answers to your last 2 questions: yes and no
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">bizzybee... I would have hate to seen you in '94 when we were 1 - 10. For crying out loud, we are 4 - 2 and this is a transition year with several of our top players injured.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">1. Please quit using the "we are 4-2" argument. We haven't beaten anyone to be proud of and we lost to wake forest. We were 4-2 in 1992 also.

2. Don't blame transition. Notre Dame has had *3* head coaches since October of last year. I thought our team was more talented than Notre Dame.

3. Quit blaming injuries. Sure we lost our #1 defensive player. But supposedly he played a position in which we were loaded with talent. Six months ago we werent even expecting Hollings to be TB, so if he had never come over, who would we have used?

I am proud of this team no matter what, its the coaching staff that is suspect.
 
Looking at Tech's history, a 7-5 finish or better would be a successful year considering we have a first year coach.

First year of other GT coaches:

Bill Curry(1980): 1-10
Bobby Ross(1987): 2-9
Bill Lewis(1992): 5-6
George O'Leary(1995): 6-5

Also note, the second year of these four coaches was just as bad.
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cb, perhaps I should have said:

1- Yes
2 - hope so but no evidence to support a "yes" so far
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Originally posted by FHstinger:
First year of other GT coaches:

Bill Curry(1980): 1-10
Bobby Ross(1987): 2-9
Bill Lewis(1992): 5-6
George O'Leary(1995): 6-5

Also note, the second year of these four coaches was just as bad.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Which of those coaches inherited a Top 25 team from the year before? Try none of them. But CG did. So it's apples and oranges. CG will not have the luxury of blaming an empty cupboard like those guys. If this team wins less than 8 games there will be only one place to point the finger. My final thoughts on the wake forest game. Look at it like this:

Would WF beat Miami in Miami?
Would WF beat Michigan in Ann Arbor?
Would WF beat Nebraska in Lincoln?
Would WF beat Colorado in Boulder?
Would WF beat Florida in the swamp?
Would WF beat Tennessee in Knoxville?
Would WF beat Georgia in Athens?
Would WF beat unranked Alabama in Tuscaloosa?

I doubt any of you can say yes to any of those. REGARDLESS of how "improved" Wake Forest is...
Puts things in perspective doesnt it? This loss makes my skin crawl and Im tired of talking about it. It could only be worse if WF was a freaking I-AA school.
 
Originally posted by DustJacket:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Originally posted by FHstinger:
First year of other GT coaches:

Bill Curry(1980): 1-10
Bobby Ross(1987): 2-9
Bill Lewis(1992): 5-6
George O'Leary(1995): 6-5

Also note, the second year of these four coaches was just as bad.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Which of those coaches inherited a Top 25 team from the year before? Try none of them. But CG did. So it's apples and oranges. CG will not have the luxury of blaming an empty cupboard like those guys. If this team wins less than 8 games there will be only one place to point the finger. My final thoughts on the wake forest game. Look at it like this:

Would WF beat Miami in Miami?
Would WF beat Michigan in Ann Arbor?
Would WF beat Nebraska in Lincoln?
Would WF beat Colorado in Boulder?
Would WF beat Florida in the swamp?
Would WF beat Tennessee in Knoxville?
Would WF beat Georgia in Athens?
Would WF beat unranked Alabama in Tuscaloosa?

I doubt any of you can say yes to any of those. REGARDLESS of how "improved" Wake Forest is...
Puts things in perspective doesnt it? This loss makes my skin crawl and Im tired of talking about it. It could only be worse if WF was a freaking I-AA school.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Would WF beat at Top 10 team on the road? Probably not. but then again, I don't think anyone considers GT to be a Top 10 program

Would WF beat a middle of the road Big 10 team on the road (Purdue)? yes... they already did that this season.

4-2 ain't an arguement fellas. Its a fact that our spoiled fan base needs to deal with ASAP!
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Good grief, most seemed to miss the point by a country mile. It has nothing to do with Ga as U could substitute Clemson or NC St as easily. It has everything to do with which direction we are headed.
In '98 we're co-champs of ACC & finish 10-2 winning Gator Bowl. In '99 we're 2nd place ACC & 8-4 losing Gator. In '00 we're 2nd pl ACC & 9-3 losing Peach. In '01 GT's tied for 5th in ACC & 8-5 winning Seattle. In '02 fans are hoping for 6-6, 7-5 & getting any Bowl. It's a slow, steady slippage. The trend is southward, while Ga, Clem & NC St are rising.
What happened? Can O'Leary build, but not maintain? Are we NOT getting championship players anymore? Why did O'L's recruiting fall off? Why didn't Gailey's start with a bang? Why are so many recruited, scholarship players leaving the program? Why aren't younger players pushing the vets & getting more playing time? Why don't we have 2 Hollings' calibre RBs or 2 Gathers calibre DEs? What can we do to get the championship players & CAN Gailey get them? Can this coaching staff get us back to the ACC throne?
I'd rather see us rise in record each yr rather than slip farther. I thought we'd be competing for the ACC in both '01 & '02, but instead I'm now hoping for a winning record. Going into '01 we'd won 4 in a row from Clem & 3 in a row from Ga, now we've lost 2 straight to Clem & Ga appears to have the horses to W their 2nd straight. How did these programs pass us so fast & so far?
 
Originally posted by GT Ace:
Good grief, most seemed to miss the point by a country mile. It has nothing to do with Ga as U could substitute Clemson or NC St as easily. It has everything to do with which direction we are headed.
How did these programs pass us so fast & so far?
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I don't know ACE I think your analysis may be flawed.

I think the real difference in this and last year was we do not have a playmaker. If you look at those great years we had MANY last minute wins where Joey H. won it at the end. A healthy Godsey also made great plays and we beat Clem's son at the end.

This year and last year we could not close the deal. The reality is we are probably only one player away on offense and maybe better on D but the ball has not went our way.

I think A. J. is going to have difficulty filling that roll, however Bilbo might end up being the best ever.

If were getting blown out I would agree with you but so far we have been in and had the opportunity to win all our games in the final drive.

There is still a chance to have a great season but I think it will have to be Bilbo driving the bus. When you read the latest article you get the impression that CG will be using DBO more and more.
 
Originally posted by law_bee:
Originally posted by GT Ace:
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I think the real difference in this and last year was we do not have a playmaker. If you look at those great years we had MANY last minute wins where Joey H. won it at the end. A healthy Godsey also made great plays and we beat Clem's son at the end.

This year and last year we could not close the deal. The reality is we are probably only one player away on offense and maybe better on D but the ball has not went our way.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">That's pretty much how I see it as well. We've got to start making big plays when it counts if we expect to win close games.

The truth as I see it is the big winning teams always have a big time play maker at QB. If you're going to expect to win the game with the ball in your hands with 2 minutes to go, the qb has got to be sharp. Sure the others around him have to get it done as well, but a great qb tends to shine even when other things aren't exactly perfect.

As far as GT is concerned now, I think we really need a go to WR as well. I'm not sure if any of them have distinguished themselves as THE GO TO GUY. That and the play maker at QB goes a long ways towards winning ball games late as I see it.

Go Jackets!
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We are not a good team now but my only disappointment really is that AJ ain't the QB/playmaker envisioned AND needed. CG/BOB are not flexible enough to see that ;when it is so obvious that the Def WITHOUT Gathers CAN"T CARRY US .This is 2002 not 1957.The offenses are too good not to be able to score-a lot.
 
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